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( This thread is from this very website back in 2003, before Pils became a Mod. Classic Slipp/SDJ interplay here...it appears I was stoned off my ass while this was going down. Ah those were the days, rocking back and forth in front of the computer screen with a blunt in my mouth laughing at all of this crazy shit... I got this from the super Top Secret I Hate Islipp board, the location of which is known only his biggest enemies. Watch as not one, but TWO Slipp personas get banned! **I originally tried to get it all in one post, but it was too much. I deleted the original post and will now run the thread concurrently.**)

metaldams
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347 Posts
Posted - 03/12/2003 : 07:47:23 AM
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Recently we talked about when comedy teams, musical artists,
directors, etc. should give it up after losing members. I don't think
this topic was explored enough, so I think I'll start a thread on it.
State when the Three Stooges should've given it up. Since I know most
will state when Shemp died, say WHY you feel this way. We can also
talk about comedians and other groups of artists in general. Is there
a standard for all when a group should give it up, or should each
situation be judged on an indiviadual basis. If you think the latter,
give examples of different situations.

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Posted - 03/12/2003 : 08:17:54 AM
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The reason is simple: everything after Shemp sucked! 'Nuf said on
that subject.

Mike Love, or whomever is continuing to tour as the Beach Boys,
should also drop it. One Beach Boy does not make a whole group.


Pilsner Panther
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USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/12/2003 : 1:14:27 PM
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It's a tough question... one element in it is that some people have
more stamina than others, and can keep on going a lot longer. I was
lucky enough to see Red Skelton live on what turned out to be his
last tour, in 1991. He did a lot of his classic routines,
like "Guzzler's Gin" and "Gertrude and Heathcliff, the Two Seagulls,"
and he was as sharp and funny as a man half his age (he was somewhere
around 80 years old). At one point, he stopped in the middle of a gag
as if he'd lost his place and gone blank— then, after pausing for a
second, he picked it right up where he left off, and said to the
audience, "Thought I was gettin' senile, didn't you?" This brought
down the house.

The Marx Brothers' last two films were embarrasingly bad... they
should have hung it up after "The Big Store" in 1941 (which is okay,
fairly funny, but they were already slipping). However, they had the
same problem that the Stooges did, in that one member of the group
(Chico) was a compulsive gambler, and they always needed money as a
result.

As to the Beach Boys, how many different versions of that band have
there been by now, anyway? Not that I care, since I never could stand
their saccharine, grossly overproduced brand of rock 'n roll.

As I said in another thread, I feel that Moe and Larry deserved a
victory lap when they got older. They'd put up with Ted's drinking
and general bad behavior, a lousy contract with Columbia that
resulted in no raises for 25 years, the untimely loss of two Howard
brothers, and probably a lot of other tsuris (to use the Yiddish
term) that we don't even know about.

So if they wanted to reinvent themselves as basically a "kiddie act"
with Curly Joe at the end, I think they can be excused for not having
the kind of comic edge they had at their best from the early 30's
through the mid-50's. Quite a long run for any comedy team!


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Featherbrain
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Posted - 03/12/2003 : 11:06:04 PM
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As to the Beach Boys, how many different versions of that band have
there been by now, anyway? Not that I care, since I never could stand
their saccharine, grossly overproduced brand of rock 'n roll.




What!? Dis the band that made PET SOUNDS and "Good Vibrations?" Why
you, I oughta...

Actually, Pilsner, yours (and Shemps#1's) main point is well-taken
(and Mike Love is pretty much persona non grata among many Beach Boys
fans). It ain't the Beach Boys when nobody in the band has the last
name of Wilson.

It's the same with the recent attempts to re-form the Doors and the
Grateful Dead. What's the point? It's like the Jimi Hendrix
Experience without Jimi.

State when the Three Stooges should've given it up. Since I know most
will state when Shemp died, say WHY you feel this way.



Okay, I confess, I confess! I like Joe Besser! (Whew, that felt
good.) But he (usually) didn't work as a Stooge and the films he did
with the team were awful. The budgets for the best of them made the
budgets for later-day Shemp shorts look Spielberg-sized.
Nevertheless, I like Besser, which is more than I can say for DeRita,
and would have preferred that he could have stayed on with the team.

I quite agree with Pilsner that Moe and Larry deserved a "victory
lap" in their later years, and see no reason for them to have broken
up while their feature films were pulling in money. But that's just
the pragmatist in me -- aesthetically, yeah, their legacy would have
been more golden had they broken up after Shemp died. If not this,
then it might have been nice for them to bow out after THE OUTLAWS IS
COMING (I never cared for the cartoon series).

To sum up my feelings, I think it's great that the Stooges were able
to endure for so long. But I seldom concern myself with anything they
did post-Shemp.

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Shemp Shady
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 03:01:58 AM
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The Stoges should have given it up after HOOFS AND GOFS was shot,
once someone watching the dailies realized that the current product
just plain suK#K#t.

And any extant footage of HOOFS should have been set ablaze, as
Besser was boint in effigy.

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Eet ees a klasseek!!! (Gnaborretni!?!?)


Pilsner Panther
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USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 03:17:51 AM
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Looks like another feud is brewing here, this time between
Featherbrain and Shemp Shady.

U.N. Inspector Hands Bricks reports that, "Yes, Besser shorts are
weapons of mass destruction, but we have no evidence that they've
killed anybody... yet."


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sickdrjoe
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 03:24:18 AM
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Right after Curly died. Moe and Shemp were nearing 60, anyway, and
everything after Curly's death is pretty much Stooges-on-various-
forms-of-life-support. If anything signalled the curtain coming down,
it was Curly's passing.


Pilsner Panther
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421 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 03:41:32 AM
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Originally posted by sickdrjoe

Right after Curly died. Moe and Shemp were nearing 60, anyway, and
everything after Curly's death is pretty much Stooges-on-various-
forms-of-life-support. If anything signalled the curtain coming down,
it was Curly's passing.




No, no, no... You mean to say that you'd rather we didn't have all
those great Shemp shorts? Just to take one, I think "Scrambled
Brains" is one of the funniest comedy films I've ever seen. Watch the
final scene where Shemp is being carried off by Nora, and he slams
his head on the doorway— a totally unexpected and brilliant gag, one
of the best "cappers" in any Stooges short. The fact that he was in
his 50's and was still willing to do brutal physical comedy like that
only adds to the greatness of Shemp!

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ISLIPP
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 04:40:17 AM
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Great posts, gang (and I mean everyone).

Agreed, "Scrambled Brains" is a great short and one of my favorites.
Too bad I haven't seen it since the old Family channel showed it.

I also agree that the boys deserved their "victory lap". The Besser
era was bad overall, and Besser was not great as a Stooge, but I
believe that if that if the writing was better, it would've covered
up how lousy he was. Most everything the boys did in the Besser era
shorts was less Vaudevile routines and more writing. I believe that
Besser, not being the kind of Vaudevillian comedian that Moe and
Larry was, needed to rely purely on what was written for him.
Therefore, the writers needed to either do beter or be replaced
entirely. I wish Moe and Larry were co-writers for every Besser era
short and that they taught Besser more of the old routines. I can
picture the threesome sitting down by a film projector while Joe
studies "Plane Nuts" and Moe and Larry giving Joe some running
commentary to help teach him.

As for other groups that should've caled it quits whe a member died,
I definitely agree with those that were mentioned. Last year (or
maybe the year before), 2 friends of my mom's went to see a Beach
Boys concert and they said that there were only 2 original members
left. Since you're all saying 1 member is left now, I gotta ask why
they are continuing at all? I suppose Mike Love thinks he's too old
to start under a new group name, and because of his age, success
would be much less likely. He'd be right if he was to try to be the
front man. If I was him, I'd just stick to background vocals and
playing the guitar (or whatever he plays).

This topic brings to mind some TV series. The recent passing of Nell
Carter has caused me to reflect on the old series, "Gimmie a Break".
Funny show. If memory serves, Dolph Sweet, who played the dad, passed
away and the series continued without him. The show was still okay,
but maybe the sould've quit out of respect for him. Anyone remember
the episode where he beat up his youngest daughter's imaginary
friend? That was hilarious!

Was their any other TV series that went on after a key cast member
died?

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Pilsner Panther
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 07:38:19 AM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP
Most everything the boys did in the Besser era shorts was less
Vaudevile routines and more writing. I believe that Besser, not being
the kind of Vaudevillian comedian that Moe and Larry was, needed to
rely purely on what was written for him.





Besser had a long career in Vaudeville, starting out as a stage
assistant to Thurston the Magician in the 1920's. Later, he appeared
on stage with Abbott & Costello, which led to his appearances in
their films and TV series.

One reason why some people get annoyed with you, Slipp, is that you
don't check your facts before you post something!



Was their any other TV series that went on after a key cast member
died?




"Petticoat Junction." Bea Benaderet died near the end of the show's
run, and was replaced by June Lockhart, who mysteriously returned
from being Lost In Space. That's the only one I can think of at the
moment. I was also going to say "Bonanza," which I think ran for a
while after Dan Blocker died, but I'm not sure about that. I was very
young at the time... back in the frontier days.

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ISLIPP
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 08:22:33 AM
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I didn't say Besser wasn't in Vaudeville. I said he didn't have the
same kind of Vaudeville background as Moe and Larry. He may have been
some kind of comedian, but not a Stoogeish kind. He wasn't too
familiar with their routines. The fact that there were magicians and
Stooges proves that there was lots to do on the Vaudeville stage.

I forgot about Bea Benadaret. She was sure gone from that show a lot.

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sickdrjoe
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:02:04 AM
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No, Pilz, not after Curly quit...after he died (in 52). Everything
prior to 1953 is fine.


metaldams
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USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:04:03 AM
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Sickdrjoe said the Stooges should've given it up after Curly died.
From the Columbia shorts view point, I can understand that. Let's say
The Three Stooges ended their career with THREE DARK HORSES. That
would've been an excellent last hurrah, and we wouldn't have missed
out on much after the fact, or at least anything with artistic merit.
The Stooges as an act, however, may have still worked up until Shemp
died and been great. It was the careless quality of those remakes
that made those last few Shemp years weak, and not so much the
performances. That said, it may be possible Shemp's health really
would've been an issue if they performed on such a hectic schedule
those last few years, so perhaps it would've been best if they
stopped shortly after Curly died. This is something we'll never know.

I agree, the current Beach Boys situation is a joke. Then there is
CCR still touring with just their bassist and drummer. None of the
Fogherty (spelling?) Brothers are involved.

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Featherbrain
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USA
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:07:59 AM
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Looks like another feud is brewing here, this time between
Featherbrain and Shemp Shady.




Nah, Besser's not worth a feud. I probably don't like the Besser-era
shorts any more than Shemp Shady does -- but I blame factors other
than Besser.

The Besser era was bad overall, and Besser was not great as a Stooge,
but I believe that if that if the writing was better, it would've
covered up how lousy he was.



I agree with the above statement until the words "how lousy he was."
I think Besser's a funny guy in the work I've seen him do with and
without the Stooges, and his occasional comebacks to Moe ("Oh, you
silly!", "Oh, copy!") are good for a laugh in a cheap, Paul-Lynde-on-
Hollywood-Squares sort of way. I find the slipshod, churn-'em-out
quality of the shorts more to blame than Joe.

Last year (or maybe the year before), 2 friends of my mom's went to
see a Beach Boys concert and they said that there were only 2
original members left. Since you're all saying 1 member is left now,
I gotta ask why they are continuing at all?



I think Bruce Johnston is performing with Mike these days. Johnston's
not an original BB, but I figure when you've put in 38 years with a
group, you've earned the right to call yourself an official memeber.
If Mike, Bruce, Brian Wilson and Al Jardine re-formed, it would more
legitimately be "The Beach Boys." But nobody gets along with Mike
other than Bruce, and Brian is pretty much held together by glue and
strings these days...

"Petticoat Junction." Bea Benaderet died near the end of the show's
run, and was replaced by June Lockhart, who mysteriously returned
from being Lost In Space. That's the only one I can think of at the
moment. I was also going to say "Bonanza," which I think ran for a
while after Dan Blocker died, but I'm not sure about that.



And IIRC, Benaderet's absence on the show was never explained other
than a vague reference that she was "visiting her sister" or
something like that on one episode. And yes, "Bonanza" continued for
one season w/o Blocker. Another one along these lines is "Chico and
the Man" going on after Freddie Prinze's death. (And although it
doesn't involve the death of a cast member, none of these bother me
as much as "The Andy Griffth Show," which became boring and pointless
after Don Knotts left.)

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Pilsner Panther
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421 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:39:50 AM
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Originally posted by sickdrjoe

No, Pilz, not after Curly quit...after he died (in 52). Everything
prior to 1953 is fine.




My mistake... that's what happens when I haven't had my morning
coffee yet.
I thought you were being a little too harsh on Shemp, there!

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sickdrjoe
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:52:50 AM
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I didn't say Besser wasn't in Vaudeville. I said he didn't have the
same kind of Vaudeville background as Moe and Larry. He may have been
some kind of comedian, but not a Stoogeish kind.


Besser was actually in vaudeville full-time from some ridiculously
young age, like 12 or 13. And 'stooges' proliferated in vaudeville -
they were a type, not the exclusive creation of the Howards.
However, 'stooging' [being violently 'hit' as part of a skit] was
seen as the lowest rung of comedy and the idea was to develop a
unique comedy persona and try to avoid being hit with a pig bladder
for 40 years. Besser was actually a high-profile vaudevillian popular
enough to be spoofed in Looney Tune cartoons. He never made sense as
a Stooge,since he wasn't about to throw his own hard-
earned 'identity' out the window to get slapped twenty times a short.

I can picture the threesome sitting down by a film projector while
Joe studies "Plane Nuts" and Moe and Larry giving Joe some running
commentary to help teach him.


Besser would've walked out of the screening! 40 years in the business
and treated like a trainee on Orientation Day?


I suppose Mike Love thinks he's too old to start under a new group
name, and because of his age, success would be much less likely. If I
was him, I'd just stick to background vocals and playing the guitar
(or whatever he plays).


I don't know who this is...but here's my opinion on what he should do!



This topic brings to mind some TV series. The recent passing of Nell
Carter has caused me to reflect on the old series, "Gimmie a Break".
If memory serves, Dolph Sweet, who played the dad, passed away and
maybe the sould've quit out of respect for him. Anyone remember the
episode where he beat up his youngest daughter's imaginary friend?
That was hilarious!


No,what's hilarious is the half-Zen/half-Zippy way you suddenly steer
into a crapola tv show no sane man would admit to watching, without
any warning whatsoever. That's why I likeyou, Slipp: you'd post an
Archies comment to a Gershwin thread! By the way, I think you may be
the only person in America to have ever "reflected" upon GIMME A
BREAK.



Giff me dat fill-em!
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USA
517 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 12:09:36 PM
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Pilsner: As to the Beach Boys, how many different versions of that
band have there been by now, anyway?

I see your point, Pilsner, and it may even be extrapolated to
the "state of the Stooges" after Curly left the group. Let's say you
have a friend who's very old and he goes to the garage and shows you
his favorite ax. "I've had this ax for nigh on to thirty years. It's
had two new blades and four new handles, but I've had this same ax
for thirty years." It would seem wise to stop calling a band of
players by an original name if there are (at the very least) no more
original members left in the group. Now the boys only changed
partners with one of the trio, when Larry was unable to perform
anymore, Moe knew it was time to throw in the towel. One remaining
Stooge of the original three did not a quorum make.

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ISLIPP
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 12:18:03 PM
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Sickdrjoe sez:

"I don't know who this is...but here's my opinion on what he should
do."

I guess I midread the signs on the door on the way in. I thought this
was a thread in a message board (a place made for people to express
opinions) where we ALL have continuosly talking about what the
Stooges should have done. Even you, sickdrjoe, said the Stooges
should've quit after Curly died. I hate how this word is thrown
around so much nowadays... but you are a hypocrite. And of course I
know who Mike Love is (yes, even before I saw his name here, I knew
who he is).

Everyone watched "Gimmie a Break" back in the day. Sure beat the heck
out of "Mr. Belvedere."

Now, I'm sure you can find someone, somewere, that you can make you
uninformed comparisons with Zippy and Zendom to.

Archies? The 60's rock group? What do they have to do with anything?

Pilsner- I forgive ya.

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Dunrobin
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 12:43:03 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

Sickdrjoe sez:

"I don't know who this is...but here's my opinion on what he should
do."

I guess I midread the signs on the door on the way in. I thought this
was a thread in a message board (a place made for people to express
opinions) where we ALL have continuosly talking about what the
Stooges should have done. Even you, sickdrjoe, said the Stooges
should've quit after Curly died. I hate how this word is thrown
around so much nowadays... but you are a hypocrite. And of course I
know who Mike Love is (yes, even before I saw his name here, I knew
who he is).



Danger, Will Robinson! Sounds like another slapfest coming on!!


Everyone watched "Gimmie a Break" back in the day. Sure beat the heck
out of "Mr. Belvedere."



I didn't!! I hardly watched TV at all in those days. (Thank God drugs
were cheaper back then!)


Now, I'm sure you can find someone, somewere, that you can make you
uninformed comparisons with Zippy and Zendom to.



Actually, "Zippy" and Zen go together hand-in-hand. Sortta
like "Ashcroft" and "fascist."

Archies? The 60's rock group? What do they have to do with anything?


Not the "rock" group (a misnomer if ever I heard one - and they were
strictly a studio band.) I believe SJD meant the comics.


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ISLIPP
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USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 1:05:22 PM
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Sure Dunrobin, babies always initiate slapfests. That's why I only
slap back. Gotta keep the brats in line, you know.

Had he said "Archie" I would've either figured he meant the comics or
Mr. Bunker. (Get outta my chair, Meathead!) But he didn't. He
said "Archies" which makes me think of the group.

What in my post sounded like "Sugar, oh honey, honey, you are my
candy girl and you got me wanting you"?

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sickdrjoe
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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 1:14:41 PM
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What in my post sounded like "Sugar, oh honey, honey, you are my
candy girl and you got me wanting you"?

All of it.
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 1:25:39 PM
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Going by how your comparison skills work, none of it.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 1:37:39 PM
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I'll just return to the obscurity from whence I came and give you
that peace, even though the more hostile one will still be among you.
Maybe I'll come back in a year, when Osicka bin Joeden is back to
making extremely rare appearances.



Lay-deez an' gennulmen!! That was 36 hours and a dozen posts ago!

I give you....the Duke of Decisiveness.....ISLIPP!!


Dunrobin
Webmaster

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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 2:54:02 PM
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Posted by Dunrobin:
Danger, Will Robinson! Sounds like another slapfest coming on!!


See, gang? Toldya so! Can I call 'em, or can I call 'em?

By the way, I stand corrected on my interpretation of SJD's Archies
comment. I guess he was referring to the lame musical "group" - I
should have paid more attention to the context. (Either way, it was
an apt comparison.)

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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 3:35:55 PM
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Now this, mah friends, is enterTAINment! Sickdrmoe is laying them in,
but the poor guy can't quite make SLIPP look bad. That's because
SLIPP is doing it all to himself! This is because brother SLIPP
needeth to remember, all you need is love. Cooler heads prevail. Turn
the other cheek, and yadda yadda yadda, so on and so forth, you get
the point, aw hell, this is now just the new wine talkin'.

"Sure Dunrobin, babies always initiate slapfests. That's why I only
slap back. Gotta keep the brats in line, you know." - ISLIPP

......sayeth da Lawd! Wait a minute....you mean He DIDN'T say
that? 'an this whole time, I jus' thought SLIPP was just sayin'
what's God's been sayin'!

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 3:43:01 PM
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I said "MAYBE I'll come back in a year". It also means MAYBE NOT, but
unless you have the IQ of earwax, you'd know that would go without
saying.

BTW, nothing you post on anything I said can top the hypocrisy I
called you on earlier in this thread, while having YOU prove for ME
that you couldn't tell the difference between a booger and a gourmet
meal. Now, go wash your hands, Emeril.

Oh look... now its Metal that can't tell what's what. He must've went
back to the OLD wine.

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Dunrobin
Webmaster

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Posted - 03/13/2003 : 3:52:44 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

I said "MAYBE I'll come back in a year". It also means MAYBE NOT, but
unless you have the IQ of earwax, you'd know that would go without
saying.


Actually, Slipp, if you had paid attention you would have noticed
that SJD said that you'd end up using that exact same argument
immediately after you posted the "I'll Be Back" line in the first
place. I guess that proves that SickDrJoe does have an IQ higher than
ear wax.

And please play nice with metal - no fair picking on our resident
worshipper of Bacchas!

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 3:58:05 PM
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I don't think so, Dunrobin. He said I'd be back in hours, but he was
wrong. It was a whole day.

Oh, and Metal picked firrst by saying I was being made to look bad by
the very guy I was making look bad for TRYING to make me look bad in
the FIRST place.

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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 4:00:25 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP
Oh look... now its Metal that can't tell what's what. He must've went
back to the OLD wine.




SLIPP, you can make fun of my family, my friends, and even Black
Sabbath, but don't you EVER accuse me of drinking old wine! That
thought of wine getting better with age is the biggest conspiracy
this world knows today! Me an old wine drinker, peh! The last time I
was so insulted is when you made fun of the art of speaking in
tounges! Well SLIPP, don't you worry, you and I will sit down
together and drink some of Mama Metal's homemade new wine, and you
will then be speaking in new tounges! You'll then be so happy! You'll
thank me for this. You'll walk with your chin up, your shoulders
back, and you'll be praising Mama Metal.

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 4:06:55 PM
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Why would I make fun of you, your friends OR your family? Black
Sabbath? Well, their open game.

Of course you didn't completely revert to the old wine. You're easing
back into it with middle-aged wine.

Anyway, if anyone wants to get back on topic, please feel free to do
so. Sickdrjoe seeking attention is getting monotonous.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 4:25:30 PM
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Metal picked firrst by saying I was being made to look bad by the
very guy I was making look bad for TRYING to make me look bad in the
FIRST place.



Man, I'd like to hang your brain on clothespins for a week to dry,
cure it in a glass jar for two more, stuff it in a pipe and smoke
it.....


metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 4:33:02 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

Why would I make fun of you, your friends OR your family? Black
Sabbath? Well, their open game.

Of course you didn't completely revert to the old wine. You're easing
back into it with middle-aged wine.

Anyway, if anyone wants to get back on topic, please feel free to do
so. Sickdrjoe seeking attention is getting monotonous.




1. The family and friends thing was just a joke. Concerning Sabbath,
you know nothing about them other then the fact they used to do The
Road Warriors theme song. Don't make fun of that which ye hath little
understanding of.

2. I agree with you for once, SLIPP. I'd love to get back on topic,
not that we can't have a little extracurricular talk at the same
time. If any of you guys have opinions about when creative groups of
people should break off in general, I'd love to hear them. I'll chip
my thoughts in later.



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Dunrobin
Webmaster


USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 4:43:40 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

I don't think so, Dunrobin. He said I'd be back in hours, but he was
wrong. It was a whole day.


What SickDrJoe said specifically was:
Whatever. You'll be back in hours, not years, waving that "maybe"
like a get-out-of-jail-free card.


As you next post was about 26 hours later, I'll have to award the
point to SDJ. (Nitpicking by calling it "a whole day" doesn't count,
as SDJ was countering your statement that you might stay away for "a
year".)

To get back on topic as you suggested, Slipp, I have to agree with
SDJ's assessment that anything after the date of Curly's death pretty
much sucked. (You did have me going there, SDJ, as I too thought you
were writing off all of the Shemp Stooge shorts.) I don't deny that
the boys deserved their "victory lap", and they were certainly in
their rights to reinvent themselves as a "kiddies" act, but I didn't
like any of that stuff even when I was a kid (although I did think
the flying sub was pretty cool.)

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 5:31:33 PM
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If any of you guys have opinions about when creative groups of people
should break off in general, I'd love to hear them.



The sad truth is the shorter list would be made up of people who
faced reality and either graciously left on a high note or changed
their style/image to remain 'relevant' (ie, bookable).

F'rinstance, the 50s & early 60s were full of movies featuring stars
in late middle age - caked in makeup, paunches tucked under girdles,
still playing 35 or younger - and in color and Widescreen yet.
Cagney, Gable, Stanwyck, Cooper, Errol Flynn, Judy Garland, Bob Hope,
Joan Crawford: they all visibly, publicly ran out of gas. Lana Turner
was still playing young heroines in 1966 [an atrocity called MADAME
X]. Comedians? They all hung around past their sell-by
dates...Chaplin, L&H, the Stooges, A&C...Jerry Lewis still won't go
away.

As far as bands go, I remember one afternoon in 1973 at a friend's
house, listening to then-new albums when his father chewed us out for
listening to that 'long haired noise', whereas his generation grew up
with "real music": Sinatra, Ella, Basie, Hoagy Carmichael, etc. We
laughed and laughed at the notion: those guys were all old and
outdated and cluelessly unhip - the gap between 1943 & 1973 may as
well have been 10,000 years for the unbridgeable distance it
presented.

Well, the gap between 1973 & 2003 is just as long, yet the same guys
on those then-new albums are still around....for the most part, still
pretending to be young, wild and free, hidden behind girdles and
liposuction, and under wigs and hats and big sunglasses, still
playing the same hits I was rollin' spliffs to 30 years ago! And
somehow it's more embarrassing than the Sinatra and Dick Haymes and
Sarah Vaughan of 30 years ago... who at least never tried kidding
their audience that they were anything BUT middle aged by then.

I mean, jeez....last year Blue Oyster Cult did a national 'reunion'-
type tour. Eric Bloom is 58!! Buck Dharma got short and squirrelly
and now resembles a weird cross of Harvey Lembeck & Neil Sedaka.
Yeah, they can still play (with a busy backstage soundcrew running
tape-delays & other gimmicks like crazy) but it was a mortifying
thing to behold.

When you watch a comic, or a famous actor, or a once-great rock band,
soldiering on for an eternity while pretending time has stood still
for them like this, it sadly reminds you that no matter what it once
meant to them, by now it's simply just a way to make a living. And
that it probably has been for a long time now...the one for whom it
once meant much much more than that was you.




shemps#1
Moderator

USA
240 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 7:14:25 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

Sure Dunrobin, babies always initiate slapfests. That's why I only
slap back. Gotta keep the brats in line, you know.




Besser had a less fey way of "slapping" than you do.


shemps#1
Moderator


USA
240 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 7:43:07 PM
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Originally posted by sickdrjoe
Well, the gap between 1973 & 2003 is just as long, yet the same guys
on those then-new albums are still around....for the most part, still
pretending to be young, wild and free, hidden behind girdles and
liposuction, and under wigs and hats and big sunglasses, still
playing the same hits I was rollin' spliffs to 30 years ago! And
somehow it's more embarrassing than the Sinatra and Dick Haymes and
Sarah Vaughan of 30 years ago... who at least never tried kidding
their audience that they were anything BUT middle aged by then.




Speaking of rolling spliffs, I have no idea how I got home today.
Just goes to show a trained chimp can do my job if I can do it after
smoking two fatties; but at least it's better to work than to sit on
my ass collecting on some bogus disability claim. ( looks to the
northwest)

As for the aging rock stars, I agree, it's sad. Paul McCartney,
finally after all these years bitching about getting his name before
Lennon's on the songs he wrote; and all because he feels second class
when compared to John. Well he is, in the fact that more Lennon songs
have stood the test of time better than Macca's main staple of fluffy
pop hits (talking mainly solo output here); and that's not just
because Lennon is dead. If he were alive he might not even give a
crap and let Paul (who now looks a lady who went through menopause
circa 1984) do what he wants just to shut him up. It all seems
rediculous 30 years later, and 20 years after one of guys involved is
dead.

Rolling Stones sure need to call it a day. Them Stones are too old to
roll out of bed without dislocating something, and Richards looks
like something out of one of those Universal Mummy sequels from the
50's.


Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 7:57:06 PM
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Speaking of rolling spliffs, I have no idea how I got home today.
Just goes to show a trained chimp can do my job if I can do it after
smoking two fatties...


"Don't say drugs, nor coke or freebase either (unless you've got
some!)"

Seriously, though - I've been known to smoke upwards of 15 doobs in a
day, and still write thousands of lines of VBscript coding without a
problem; which goes to show you how little the so-called "drug
warriors" really know!

So far I haven't seen a comment on aging rock groups that I woud
disagree with. About the only group from my youth that is still going
strong is Pink Floyd. David Gilmore rules!

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G.B.
Porcupine

USA
35 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:02:06 PM
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The irony is that many of the Joe DeRita films were actually worse
than the Besser ones, especially those horrid New Three Stooges
cartoons. DeRita's "Curly-Joe" had no real personality and he was
quoted in one book as saying that he didn't think the Three Stooges
were funny. DeRita seems to get a free ride simply because he looked
like Curly and because he was willing to be hit (at a time when there
was a lot less hitting going on).

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Featherbrain
Porcupine

USA
14 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:03:52 PM
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Rolling Stones sure need to call it a day. Them Stones are too old to
roll out of bed without dislocating something, and Richards looks
like something out of one of those Universal Mummy sequels from the
50's.



I picture the mummy coming to life and saying in his best Curly
voice, "That's an insult!"

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:18:17 PM
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"Besser had a less fey way of "slapping" then you.

No words have been more false. The proof is in the pudding. My slaps
were good, and sickdrjoe couldn't rebound from them, so he tried
other approaches (most of them beyond lame). For him to rebound, he
would've had to tell (as only he could) why he wasn't being
hypocritical and why his comparisons actually held water (snicker).
Since he didn't do that, he obviously agrees that he was being
hypocritical (and downright stupid). If he was the man he'd like you
to think he is, he would admit his misdeeds as I have revealed them.
I mean, come on, he doesn't have to bow to me or kiss my grubby,
smelly feet. What he would be doing is exhibiting humility and true
manliness.

Dunrobin- good to see another Pink Floyd fan. I have a great
appreciation for Gilmore and Roger waters.

We now return you to the topic already in progress...



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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:25:40 PM
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Originally posted by Dunrobin

Speaking of rolling spliffs, I have no idea how I got home today.
Just goes to show a trained chimp can do my job if I can do it after
smoking two fatties...


"Don't say drugs, nor coke or freebase either (unless you've got
some!)"

Seriously, though - I've been known to smoke upwards of 15 doobs in a
day, and still write thousands of lines of VBscript coding without a
problem; which goes to show you how little the so-called "drug
warriors" really know!

So far I haven't seen a comment on aging rock groups that I woud
disagree with. About the only group from my youth that is still going
strong is Pink Floyd. David Gilmore rules!




Pink Floyd may or may not sound good today, (haven't heard them
recently), but without Roger Waters, it isn't really Pink Floyd to
me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Waters a main songwriter,
possibly even the most prolific one in the band, (I'm not a Floyd
expert, only owning Dark Side Of The Moon, so I'm open to being
proven wrong here). I'm at least pretty sure he wrote 95% of The
Wall. To me, if the main creative force isn't involved, it's not
truly the band. Same with the Beach Boys. They could have every
Wilson brother except for Brian and to me it wouldn't be truly the
Beach Boys.



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Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:30:28 PM
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Dunrobin- good to see another Pink Floyd fan. I have a great
appreciation for Gilmour and Roger waters.


Waters was great while he was with Pink Floyd, but he's pretty much
sucked since he struck off on his own. (That "live" performance of
The Wall in Berlin several years ago sucked ass, big time!) Gilmore's
work on the other hand, both solo and with Pink Floyd, has been
consistently excellent all along.

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Pilsner Panther
Muttonhead

USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:31:50 PM
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Originally posted by Dunrobin

Seriously, though - I've been known to smoke upwards of 15 doobs in a
day, and still write thousands of lines of VBscript coding without a
problem; which goes to show you how little the so-called "drug
warriors" really know!




I've stumbled into a nest of drug fiends! But then, like practically
everyone else who came of age in the 70's-80's, I've done my share
of "inhaling."


So far I haven't seen a comment on aging rock groups that I woud
disagree with. About the only group from my youth that is still going
strong is Pink Floyd. David Gilmore rules!




I could be wrong, since I was never a huge Floyd fan and never really
followed their activities closely, but didn't they break up some time
in the mid-90's?

Now, in the extremely unlikely event that Captain Beefheart ever
makes a comeback, I'll be first in line for tickets!

"Oh woe is a me bop, Om drop a re bop, Ommm..."

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Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:34:05 PM
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"I've stumbled into a nest of drug fiends!"

Smile when you say that, son!

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Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 8:43:07 PM
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I've really got to watch that - one of these days the fascist SOB's
will be knocking down my door, and I don't even smoke the gonja
anymore (tho' not from a lack of desire.)

RE: Roger Waters and Pink Floyd -
To answer metaldams question - yes, Roger was probably the main
driving force behind Pink Floyd while he was with the group, and they
lost some of the more disturbingly insane quality they had when he
left. But he was hardly the only member, and the group has continued
for decades and increased in fame long after he was gone. Check some
of their later work, like "Division Bell" and "Momentary Lapse of
Reason." (If you're interested, I'd be happy to rip my CD's and make
them available.)

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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 10:44:27 PM
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For comedians, I agree that most went on with their careers a bit too
long artistically. The only possible exception that comes to mind may
be Harold Lloyd. I actually enjoy the couple of talkies I've seen
with him. he made a feature in 1938, retired, made one more film in
1947, retired for good, and died in 1971. He was a comedian who truly
spent his golden years retired. The Three Stooges, Chaplin, Keaton,
The Marx Brothers, Laurel and Hardy, all stayed on a bit too long. In
all fairness to Laurel and Hardy, I've never seen any of their films
past 1936, so I'm only going by reputation concerning their post
Roach output. The Three Stooges last truly great work was Three Dark
Horses, and The Marx Brothers, I'd say stopping at The Big Store is
being too kind. A Day At The Races to me was their last great film.
The others after this have their good moments, but the classic era
had obviously gone by. Even Groucho has stated he lost all enthusiasm
after Irving Thalberg died. W.C. Fields, on the other hand, made all
his classic works later on in life. He's a definite exception to the
rule.

Rock bands are a bit more complicated for me. First off, Motorhead
has no right to still be valid, but I'll be damned if they aren't.
Most men Lemmy Kilmister's age, (he's 57), living that lifestyle,
portraying that kind of persona, it would all look ridiculous. I
cannot point my finger as to why, but Lemmy pulls it off and is just
as cool now as he was 25 years ago. He may even be a bit cooler. The
albums are even just as good as ever. I listened to the newest one,
Hammered, today. It's one of their best albums IMO. There's something
very honest and very real about Lemmy to me, and age doesn't effect
him.

Now the exception is out of the way, any band who has middle aged men
still trying to portray a youthful, rock 'n roll lifestyle or look
looks ridiculous. The site of The Rolling Stones today really scares
me. I saw Judas Priest in concert twice this past year. Musicially
they are still good live. Image wise, it looks OK for The Ripper, but
he's a young guy, (with a helluva voice, he does an AMAZING "Victim
Of Changes"), but the leather and studs look on Tipton, Downing, and
Ian Hill looks awful. Then there is K.K. Downing taking his shirt off
at the end of the show. My female friend who was with me
goes, "EEEEEEWWWW, it's like watching my grandfather take his shirt
off!" She was also offered a backstage pass. She declined.

Some people can pull it of at 50 and 60 if they have the right image.
Paul McCartney doing his recent tour of mostly Beatles songs comes
out alright to me. A 60 year old man singing "Hey Jude," "Let It Be,"
and "Yesterday," doesn't seem ridiculous to me.

Being a younger guy who didn't get to see his favorite bands the
first time around, I'm cool with reunion tours if they are done
properly. KISS in Philly at the '96 reunion tour was a blast, (and
with all that gear and make-up you can barely tell their ages), but
they've outstayed their welcome to the point where they have
substitutes wearing the Ace and Peter costumes. Black Sabbath I also
saw live in '99. They did it right and reunited, went out on a
positive note and have not been overhyped. I had no problem hearing
them do the old songs one more time. Just do it once in awhile and
not too much, and it's fine by me.

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Dunrobin
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I have to take exception to your inclusion of Buster Keaton is your
list, metaldams. He appeared in a number of small roles towards the
end of his life, and was always good at them (even when the movies
themselves were lame.) The last film he appeared in (alive) was "A
Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum", which featured him in
a supporting role as the next door neighbor searching for his long
lost children. Keaton was perfect in the role.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:26:42 PM
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My slaps were good, and sickdrjoe couldn't rebound from them, so he
tried other approaches (most of them beyond lame). For him to
rebound, he would've had to tell (as only he could) why he wasn't
being hypocritical and why his comparisons actually held water
(snicker). Since he didn't do that, he obviously agrees that he was
being hypocritical (and downright stupid). If he was the man he'd
like you to think he is, he would admit his misdeeds as I have
revealed them.



Anybody else notice that....as Slipp gets crazier, shriller and more
infantile, he simultaneously gets MORE desperate to turn defeat into
victory? I mean, look at the post above. It reads as if a ten-year-
old Ritalin addict wrote it, notathirty-year-old adult! And this
tendency of his to dig himself ever deeper inevitably leads to still
crazier, shriller, more infantile etc etc. Watch; you'll see.

Then....just when he's filled his Huggies to the bursting point, and
the stench is starting to make your eyes water...he suddenly
announces his retirement in an orgy of self-pity and private emails.

And then hours later, it begins again!

Sheesh. SLIPP, this is the last Stooge board for you. For Pete's
sake, don't blow it again. Calm down.




metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2003 : 11:42:56 PM
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Originally posted by Dunrobin

I have to take exception to your inclusion of Buster Keaton is your
list, metaldams. He appeared in a number of small roles towards the
end of his life, and was always good at them (even when the movies
themselves were lame.) The last film he appeared in (alive) was "A
Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum", which featured him in
a supporting role as the next door neighbor searching for his long
lost children. Keaton was perfect in the role.




I'll give Keaton props for A Funny Thing happened On The Way To The
Forum. He was very close to the end while filming that one too. Come
to think of it, I've never seen the Railrodder, which is from 1965
and I've heard is supposed to be good, so perhaps I spoke too soon on
Keaton. That being said, the MGM talkie features I've seen of his and
some of the talkie shorts aren't necessarily up to par. Some are
quite bad and don't come anywhere near his silent era heyday, which
in my opinion is one of the most amazingly consistent and creative
periods a comedian ever had. Even A Funny Thing Happened On The Way
To The Forum, as good as he was in it, wasn't up to that incredibly
high standard.....not that it could be expected.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
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Don't forget BEACH BLANKET BINGO & GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI. Oh
well...at least Buster was spared having to grace a "Dr Goldfoot"
movie.


Bruckman
Applehead

USA
109 Posts
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Well I give Keaton a pass on his later films inasmuch as he needed
the money and they were done essentially to put bread on the table.
Necessity isn't often the mother of comic invention, however. There
are some decent later Keaton appearances (his Twilight Zone ep, a
1954 segment on "Screen Director's Playhouse", and even a few of the
episodes I've seen of his own TV show are all amusing). I don't know
what's preferable--nonsense like BEACH BLANKET BINGO or the
stultifying high-mindedness of later Chaplin in LIMELIGHT and A KING
IN NEW YORK. At least Buster never took himself too seriously even
when being courted by the avant-garde like Beckett.

As far as the Three Stooges, I'd have let them run through about the
1953-54 season, at which point the economics of producing shorts
simply wasn't viable. Like a few others here I've always blamed the
lousiness of the Bessers on the rushed writing and shooting schedules
and lack of money, not so much on Besser, although I think Joe
could've been better utilized not as a Stooge but as a supporting
player.

Music-wise, SDJ makes a very observant point commenting on the way
old bands hold to their image, because it's the image which supports
the nostalgia, more than the music in most cases. I was reminded of
this recently while watching TV; I was changing channels and stopped
for a minute at some program where an interviewer was talking to the
lead singer from Whitesnake, a band who had some heavy MTV rotation
circa 1987, one of those big-hair generic metal bands of the era.
Some shots of them from 1987 were juxtaposed with the same singer in
the present and it seemed laughable that here was this guy, heavily
lined with more than a few miles on the tread--yet everything else
about him was exactly the same: clothing, hair, movement (although
his movements were not nearly as fast as in 87). Is this a case of
nostalgia or arrested development--not just his own arrested
development, but a desire for stasis symptomatic of our own times?
I'm still puzzling this out, maybe I'll have an answer by the time
I'm the age of the Whitesnake dude. Is Whitesnake significant enough
in pop culture that thousands was nostalgic over "Here I go again on
my own......"? Or is it our own inability to touch the past that
resurrects these negligible quantities?
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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Originally posted by metaldams

The Three Stooges, Chaplin, Keaton, The Marx Brothers, Laurel and
Hardy, all stayed on a bit too long. In all fairness to Laurel and
Hardy, I've never seen any of their films past 1936, so I'm only
going by reputation concerning their post Roach output. The Three
Stooges last truly great work was Three Dark Horses, and The Marx
Brothers, I'd say stopping at The Big Store is being too kind. A Day
At The Races to me was their last great film. The others after this
have their good moments, but the classic era had obviously gone by.
Even Groucho has stated he lost all enthusiasm after Irving Thalberg
died. W.C. Fields, on the other hand, made all his classic works
later on in life.





That's not completely true. Fields was pushing 50 at the beginning of
the sound era, but have you ever seen "Sally of the Sawdust?" A
typically sentimental and too-long (115 minutes) 1925 D.W. Griffith
silent, it still features a younger, more energetic Fields doing some
of his classic juggling routines, engaging in a vigorous fistfight,
and even a Sennett-style chase at the end. You only see flashes of
his juggling in his sound films, because by that time his drinking
had started to mess up his coordination. One major problem
with "Sally of the Sawdust" is that the actress who plays Sally,
Carol Dempster, is supposed to be a girl of 18 or so, but she appears
to be at least 35. Even so, it's worth watching, at least once; it's
almost like two different films, a Griffith "weeper," and something
else altogether when Fields is on the screen.

Two good later Laurel & Hardy films are "The Flying Deuces" and "A
Chump At Oxford." The first one has some surprisingly dark humor in
it— like when Ollie, rejected by a girl, decides to commit suicide.
Ever the "Pal," he tries to talk Stan into joining him: "What will
you do without me? People will point at you in the street and laugh,
and there'll be no one to explain to them what you are!"

In "Chump," (which I think would have been a good film for them to
bow out with as a team) Stan does an amazing transformation into a
character that's nothing like his usual screen persona, proving once
again that some of the old-time comics had a lot more acting range
than they're usually given credit for.

I'll stay away from much more personal commentary on all these rock
bands, since I don't pretend to be any kind of expert in that area.
Obviously, some people on this board went to a lot more rock concerts
than I did in the 70's and 80's. The first one I ever saw was Frank
Zappa in 1978, and he's definitely not making any comebacks. Too bad,
since I think he would have aged well and kept his satirical edge,
right into the present... I can only imagine what he would have had
to say about George W. Bush, John Ashcroft, & Co.

KISS was smart, using that full-face makeup. For all we know, Gene
Simmons could look just as bad as Keith Richards by now, underneath
it!

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:26:02 AM
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Lookit sickdrjoe! Doesn't he know we're all laughing at him? Man,
he's absolutely pitiful in ths thread, trying to get the best of me.
Even his little circle of friends must be biting their tongues like
never before, because they still want his friendship!

I suggest that we get back on topic and a few people followed the
suggestion, including Dunrobin. But no, sickdrjoe stil wants to take
us OFF-topic. Why? To throw a lame comeback my way so he can avoid
telling me, "You were right, I was wrong." But it didn't work, did
it, sickdrjoe? No one acknwledged a thing you wrote because they
value the REAL topic, brilliantly initiated by Metaldams, rather than
some half-assed attempt savage some pride, taken by yours truly.

"Anyone notice that....as Slipp gets crazier, shriller and more
infantile..."

See, righ there, you have to make stuff up as you go along. I don't
feel in the least like I'm getting crazy and shrill. I've been
posting with a calm, cool and collected tone all through this thread
that you're trying to sabatoge. Infantile? Please. Again, your awful
comparison skills are manifested.

10 year-old Ritalin addict? You just described yourself, with your
lame attepts to get under my skin. What kind of word is "notathirty"?
I know- a word a 10 year-old Ritalin addict would use!

"Then....just when he's filled his Huggies to the bursting point and
the stench is starting to make your eyes water"

Hmmm. Funny scenario, I'll admit. But I swear, you have used this
line continuously for over 2 years. Even Three Stooges lines grate on
you after hearing them so many ties. That's why hardly anyone was
watching the boys on AMC toward the end of N.Y.U.K.'s run. They tried
bringing back the Playhouse format, but it didn't work. Now the boysa
aren't on AMC at all. It's been many months since then... and you
STILL haven't learned anything from it.

Announce my retirement? Private e-mails? You think you got me pegged,
but you won't admit that you're just guessing here. You want everyone
to be convinced that your intelligent and laid back as you post this
nonsense, but I see right through your act. At times, your act has
has been good, and people actually believed that you had it all
together, but anyone can see that your grasping for straws here. At
other times, I may have been the only one to see it, but I know that
not even the ties of friendship can't keep your buddies from seeing
the truth.

We all see your lip quivering, the single tear running down your
cheek as you desperately try not to sound as crazy and shrill as you
falsely say that I do. You see yourself on the brink of losing your
integrity- your dignity on this board. So you pull out the tired old
lines that even your best pals roll their eyes at. Why don't you tell
them how I'm banging my spoon on the highchair again? Hey, I know...
tell them the one about Macy's window! I'm sure you'll have us all in
stitches over that overused, beaten-to-death line.

The last board for me? Oh, how you babble on! Know whereof you speak,
and assume too much, or your assumptions will turn into beliefs
before you can fully come to your senses.

Finally, "Calm down." Like I said, I've never been more calm in my
life. You, on the other hand, ought to keep your childishness in
check. I'd rather be half-cocked than act like a grown-up baby. Next
time you feel like spouting off, ease your aggresions by sucking your
Telletubbies pacifier.

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:35:42 AM
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Pilsner- good observations with "Flying Deuces" and "Chump" which
truly are 2 great films. "Dueces" is the one with horse ending (which
I won't completely spoil here), right? I get their 2 foreign legion
films ("Dueces" and the Jeanie Weanie one- I forget it's title) mixed
up sometimes. Both are great.

With "Chump", I especially appreciate it not only because of Stan's
great acting in 2 personas, but also for the early appearance of one
my favorite actors of all time- Peter Cushing. The man was a godsend
to the Hammer horror films and was also great in "Star Wars".

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Bruckman
Applehead

USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:39:16 AM
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What I like is that Slipp can say straightforwardly "I'm more an
advocate of peace" then make the above protracted post, just like the
old days at C3, Stoogeworld, and 24*7.

"I come in peace."
"Yeah, and you go in pieces, @$$#&%#"

(Two years I've been on Stooge forums and never yet used a Dolph
Lundgren quote. Two years!!!)




ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 07:04:06 AM
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I didn't lie. I am an advocate of peace. I try to keep peace between
others.

And on non Stooge-related boards, I avoid striking back altogether.
But no one ever KEEPS ragging on me like sickdrjoe does. Most of the
time, they throw ONE insult at me and I manage to successfully
promote peace between us instead of getting back at him.

For instance, someone bit my head off for posting something totally
off-topic. My response was that there should be no problem with it
because I posted it in the forum that is speciallly designed for off-
topic discussion. He realized the error of his ways and backed off. I
could've laid nto him and told him he had no right to bash me and
insult me, but when you bring up what others do and don't have the
right to do, they get defensive. Who am I to dictate what someone
does and doesn't have the right to do? Anyway, the problem was solved
and everyone was hppy and I went on to bring peace in other
potentially bad situations. I still poston those boards to this day
and no one has a problem with me. In fact, one of the members started
his own board recently and invited me and the other good posters to
join. So I accepted.

I wish I could apply to this situation what I apply to situations at
those other boards, but sickdrjoe is like no one I've ever come up
against. He has to have his own way, and if not, he assumes that he
looks bad. There's nothing wrong with not getting your own way in
public and the sooner he accepts that, the sooner I CAN achieve peace
with him.

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Bruckman
Applehead

USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 07:46:18 AM
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What do you know, Slipp's got a musical head! *bing!* [marks X on
Slipp's forehead] How old are you anyway? No, no a little older than
that, no, you couldn't have gotten that deluded in 30 years......Wait
a minute, Slipp's handed me a letter. "Dear Mr. Bruckman, We wish to
introduce you to a young man who is very cooperative, peace-loving,
well-liked on forums, has musical talent, sings, plays the organ,
active in church.......who wrote this? it's very interesting....I
remain truly yours.....signed, ISLIPP" Ha ha ha, well that was a good
one on me, who else would like to try Slipp's musical head?




metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 08:21:32 AM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

Lookit sickdrjoe! Doesn't he know we're all laughing at him? Man,
he's absolutely pitiful in ths thread, trying to get the best of me.
Even his little circle of friends must be biting their tongues like
never before, because they still want his friendship!

I suggest that we get back on topic and a few people followed the
suggestion, including Dunrobin. But no, sickdrjoe stil wants to take
us OFF-topic. Why? To throw a lame comeback my way so he can avoid
telling me, "You were right, I was wrong." But it didn't work, did
it, sickdrjoe? No one acknwledged a thing you wrote because they
value the REAL topic, brilliantly initiated by Metaldams, rather than
some half-assed attempt savage some pride, taken by yours truly.

"Anyone notice that....as Slipp gets crazier, shriller and more
infantile..."

See, righ there, you have to make stuff up as you go along. I don't
feel in the least like I'm getting crazy and shrill. I've been
posting with a calm, cool and collected tone all through this thread
that you're trying to sabatoge. Infantile? Please. Again, your awful
comparison skills are manifested.

10 year-old Ritalin addict? You just described yourself, with your
lame attepts to get under my skin. What kind of word is "notathirty"?
I know- a word a 10 year-old Ritalin addict would use!

"Then....just when he's filled his Huggies to the bursting point and
the stench is starting to make your eyes water"

Hmmm. Funny scenario, I'll admit. But I swear, you have used this
line continuously for over 2 years. Even Three Stooges lines grate on
you after hearing them so many ties. That's why hardly anyone was
watching the boys on AMC toward the end of N.Y.U.K.'s run. They tried
bringing back the Playhouse format, but it didn't work. Now the boysa
aren't on AMC at all. It's been many months since then... and you
STILL haven't learned anything from it.

Announce my retirement? Private e-mails? You think you got me pegged,
but you won't admit that you're just guessing here. You want everyone
to be convinced that your intelligent and laid back as you post this
nonsense, but I see right through your act. At times, your act has
has been good, and people actually believed that you had it all
together, but anyone can see that your grasping for straws here. At
other times, I may have been the only one to see it, but I know that
not even the ties of friendship can't keep your buddies from seeing
the truth.

We all see your lip quivering, the single tear running down your
cheek as you desperately try not to sound as crazy and shrill as you
falsely say that I do. You see yourself on the brink of losing your
integrity- your dignity on this board. So you pull out the tired old
lines that even your best pals roll their eyes at. Why don't you tell
them how I'm banging my spoon on the highchair again? Hey, I know...
tell them the one about Macy's window! I'm sure you'll have us all in
stitches over that overused, beaten-to-death line.

The last board for me? Oh, how you babble on! Know whereof you speak,
and assume too much, or your assumptions will turn into beliefs
before you can fully come to your senses.

Finally, "Calm down." Like I said, I've never been more calm in my
life. You, on the other hand, ought to keep your childishness in
check. I'd rather be half-cocked than act like a grown-up baby. Next
time you feel like spouting off, ease your aggresions by sucking your
Telletubbies pacifier.




What the HELL are you talking about?

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 10:19:13 AM
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What the real question should be is "What's Bruckman talking about?"

Metal, I believe I made myself perfectly clear in that post you
quoted. Let me guess.. you want to call that post "mindless babbling"
just so you can imply that what I say has no merit so YOU don't look
bad because you're friends with DrJoe. Right? If that's the case,
don't worry, pal. No one is going to turn against you for admitting
that DrJoe's comments against me have no merit. If they do, they are
in the wrong, and they are not really your friends. They are still
trying to maintain their good images by backing him. i don't when
they (or you) will wake up and smell the coffee. but the sooner, the
better, for you and them. I'm not asking for people to join my side
or anything, but rather to just stop backing a jackass. You don't
know how bad that really does make you look.

I'm laughing at you myself. I can only imagine how the others are
reacting, but at least they have the decency to react OFFscreen. I
don't need any supporters and neither does he. This doesn't really
concern you, or Bruckman, or anyone else for that matter, does it?
Only in the way I mentioned above. You lay down with dogs, you rise
up with fleas (I think Benamin Franklin said that). You can still be
his friend- but why not let him stew in his own juices when he's
wrong. How else is he going to learn? And why do you have to be there
to "soften the blow"? A child isn't going to learn not to sass his
parents with a simple slap on the wrists. Likewise, your pal won't
learn to stop turning message board discussions into crap just
becuase I post in them.

Now PLEASE, let's get back on topic, shall we?

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 10:47:31 AM
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As usual, Boy Heidi, YOU have kidnapped the entire thread with one
spectacularly pathological rant after another....while accusing
others of doing so.

You need counselling, and powerful medication. Nobody acts this crazy
without being crazy.



Stooge Arch
Grapehead

64 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 11:30:28 AM
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Back to the subject.

What about Newsradio after Phil Hartman died they brought in Jon
Lovitz to help out Jon Lovitz is a good actor but he could never
replace Hartman. This may not be about this topic What about Good
Times when they killed the father James that was stupid and the show
was never good without him.

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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 11:49:27 AM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

What the real question should be is "What's Bruckman talking about?"

Metal, I believe I made myself perfectly clear in that post you
quoted. Let me guess.. you want to call that post "mindless babbling"
just so you can imply that what I say has no merit so YOU don't look
bad because you're friends with DrJoe. Right? If that's the case,
don't worry, pal. No one is going to turn against you for admitting
that DrJoe's comments against me have no merit. If they do, they are
in the wrong, and they are not really your friends. They are still
trying to maintain their good images by backing him. i don't when
they (or you) will wake up and smell the coffee. but the sooner, the
better, for you and them. I'm not asking for people to join my side
or anything, but rather to just stop backing a jackass. You don't
know how bad that really does make you look.

I'm laughing at you myself. I can only imagine how the others are
reacting, but at least they have the decency to react OFFscreen. I
don't need any supporters and neither does he. This doesn't really
concern you, or Bruckman, or anyone else for that matter, does it?
Only in the way I mentioned above. You lay down with dogs, you rise
up with fleas (I think Benamin Franklin said that). You can still be
his friend- but why not let him stew in his own juices when he's
wrong. How else is he going to learn? And why do you have to be there
to "soften the blow"? A child isn't going to learn not to sass his
parents with a simple slap on the wrists. Likewise, your pal won't
learn to stop turning message board discussions into crap just
becuase I post in them.

Now PLEASE, let's get back on topic, shall we?




Sickdrjoe, he's right. You're the troublemaker here and SLIPP is
being unfairly portrayed. PLEASE forgive me for saying it! Don't hurt
me master! That look in your eyes......no master! Please sickdrjoe,
I'M LOYAL TO YOU! I SWEAR, I'M LOYAL TO YOU! I'LL NEVER BETRAY YOU
AGAIN! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME! I can't die with innocent blood on my
hands. NO, NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! (sickdrjoe chokes metal
out and pushes him down the stairs).

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metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 12:37:21 PM
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Pilsner, concerning Fields, I've yet to see his silent work, though
I've read a little about it. No matter how great some of it may be,
it is his talkies that he is most known and loved for today. He made
those later on in his life. The Paramount stuff his early to mid 50s,
and his Universal stuff his late 50s to early 60s. That was roughly a
60 year old man in The Bank Dick, and I hear nobody complaining about
his age in that. That's why I say he's the exception to the rule. He
truly was The Great Man, and I imagine he'd have no problems sharing
a bottle of new wine with me. Why mah boy, the wine will be so new
they won't even have a chance to put a cork on the bottle. As long as
as we don't have to drink water. I don't like water. Fish like to
fffffff......um, nevermind.

Bruckman, agreed with you on Whitesnake and David Coverdale. It looks
ridiculous. They're just another old band trying to cash in on past
glories, and they look crazy doing it. Coverdale has actually been
around longer than the mid 80s. he was in Deep Purple from '74 - '76
and Whitesnake formed shortly thereafter. They didn't achieve fame
until much later on.

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:36:01 PM
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DrJoe, as usual, Jackass, you totally ignore the fact that you
started the whole spat by popping of at me in the first place. (I
really am calm right now- while shaking my head at your insolence,
arrogance and what have you).

This thread is "kidnapped" as you put it because you just have to get
the last word. You also just have to continually make your posts look
like you're shrugging off anything I say. Keep it up. Me and everyone
who is staying out of this situation is either laughing at you or
pitying you. Nobody would say I'm crazy except you, Metal and very
few others. I and the rest of these posters think you need the help-
all the counseling a guy can handle.

Metal- I'm very sad for you. You obviously don't want to face the
fact that you're making yourself look pitiful- in public. That latest
post of yours about what I posted was extremely pitiful. I'm almost
want to cry for you. Please, come to your senses and truly admit I'm
right. Maybe you can still save yourself from being ostracized.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:41:39 PM
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I suppose I've been asking for this treatment ever since my shameful
Christmas-greetings thread of two years ago. Once a guy wishes
someone a 'Merry Xmas', there's no telling how low he'll sink....eh,
Slipp?


ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:55:35 PM
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What treatment? Oh you poor, poor, little baby. Did I hurt your
wittle feewings?

No one ever said your Christmas greeting was shameful but you, in
jest, just now, and you know it.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 3:56:59 PM
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Hey!!

It's called a #@!&%* SPACE BAR!!!!


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Porcupines! Webmaster to the rescue!!
- Dunrobin



metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 4:39:40 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP

DrJoe, as usual, Jackass, you totally ignore the fact that you
started the whole spat by popping of at me in the first place. (I
really am calm right now- while shaking my head at your insolence,
arrogance and what have you).

This thread is "kidnapped" as you put it because you just have to get
the last word. You also just have to continually make your posts look
like you're shrugging off anything I say. Keep it up. Me and everyone
who is staying out of this situation is either laughing at you or
pitying you. Nobody would say I'm crazy except you, Metal and very
few others. I and the rest of these posters think you need the help-
all the counseling a guy can handle.

Metal- I'm very sad for you. You obviously don't want to face the
fact that you're making yourself look pitiful- in public. That latest
post of yours about what I posted was extremely pitiful. I'm almost
want to cry for you. Please, come to your senses and truly admit I'm
right. Maybe you can still save yourself from being ostracized.




SLIPP, I don't give a rat's ass what anybody else thinks. You know,
I'm sure there is the occasional person who comes to this board, who
sees me posting about new wine and acting like Renfield and probably
does think I'm one card short of a full deck. Not everybody, because
a lot of the regulars here "get" me and like me for who I am, (and
it's aprreciated), but I'm well aware of the fact there are probably
some stick in the muds out there who come to Three Stooges and other
comedy message boards that totally lack any kind of sense of humor
and couldn't possibly understand why someone wouldn't feel the need
to act serious in EVERY post, on a COMEDY board. I take this
seriously, but at the same time, not too seriously. Want to know
something else, SLIPP? I LIKE ME. That's very important. You, on the
other hand, spend your entire life worrying about what other people
think. "Oh no, I couldn't possibly put Curly's hat in a display case
in my house, people will think I'm weird," or, "Oh my God, these
people really don't like me on this message board, what do do? Oh, I
know! I will pose as my mother and make her say really great things
about me, and then everybody will like me for sure!!!" Your whole
life is centered around seeking acceptance from others, and if
anybody is sad around here, it's you, and that is the reason why.
I've never seen anybody in my life who is so needy for acceptance.
One thing I've learned in life is that the less you seek acceptance,
the easier it will come. You won't get it from everybody but you'll
get it from the people who truly like the real you, and that's what
really matters. So SLIPP, if anybody is posting here and thinks I
need psychiatric help, let them think it. To me, their opinions don't
matter.

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Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 5:51:22 PM
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ISLIPP -

Earlier you were egging me on to ban SickDrJoe, but frankly you are
the one who is begging to get banned. SDJ is right when he says
you've managed to kidnap this thread, and while I try to be an
extremely tolerant guy you're really starting to push me to my
limits. Try reading Metaldams last post very carefully, as he offers
some very sage observations and advice.

Now quit getting your panties knotted up into a bunch and grow up,
before I gouge yer eyes out! 'Nuff said?



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"Quiet Knumbskulls - I'm broadcasting!"


ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:09:13 PM
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Dunrobin- whatever you censored there in sickdrjoe's post, thanks.

As for you Metal, I'm glad you like yourself. I really like myself
too, and like you and yourself, I also couldn't give a rat's a$$ what
other people think ok me. That's not the issue here.

What is the issue, is that you want to back DrJoe in wanting to
destroy my public image, which is the the other issue. The latter I
won't stand for. The former, I'll hope in your best interest that you
do something about.

I can take a ribbing as well as the next guy (it's been proven at
those other boards I've mentioned), but like I say, DrJoe is a whole
different animal (one that should be on a muzzle).

I've cracked jokes on THIS very board, which proves that I'm all for
me and others being funny on message boards. I don't take everything
seriously. (See the beer thread- "To the left-hand side?") DrJoe's
ribbings, I do take seriously, because his aren't the genteel kind
you just laugh off.

Acceptance? I already feel accepted here by most people, simply
because they haven't even suggested banning or ostricizing me.
Nothing I said to you in this thread was about acceptance at this
board. If you want to act like a total idiot (not that you have) and
stay here forever, go ahead. My point was that for your own benefit,
if someone tells you he/she thinks you're crazy, why not see for
yourself? Watch how strangers react to you in public. Watch how your
co-workers react to you. If you get a lot of weird reactions, it's
good sign that you need help. That many people can't be wrong.

I would have that hat in my bedroom in a display case anytime, but
not my living room. Too much action happens in the living room (and
when I get married, there will be too much action in the bedroom
too , so THEN what'll I do with it?



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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:16:55 PM
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Can't you make your "point" in 25 words or under? EVER? You're not
just maudlin; you're incredibly tiresome and long-winded!
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:23:29 PM
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Dunrobin-

I read Metaldams post carefully and trust me, I already have been
taking his advice at other boards since June. Why not this one? I
have, with others besides sickdrjoe and those who back him.

Say the word Dunrobin, and I'll e-mail you a link to the other boards
where you can see first-hand how I interact with others. And please
notice how I've interacted with people HERE, other than sickdrjoe and
those who back him.

I think he and I BOTH "kidnapped" this thread. For my part in it, I
truly am sorry for the pain I'm causing you, but I'v put up with him
for 2 years (a lifetime on theinternet). I know you're familiar with
Numskull and Stoogerworld. I used to post there, and I ended up on
good terrms with Numskull (still am to this day). He chose to ban me
because these guys wouldn't stop ragging on me on his board. We were
arguing all the time and Numskull said he would rather ban one guy
than most of the rest of his regulars, so he banned me.

I'm begging you Dunrobin, please don't let me be cheated out of
posting at the last message board for my favorite comedians of all
time. There are actually 2 links I can e-mail you- 2 boards where the
same posters post. They are boards about pro wrestling. Again, just
say the word and you can be seeing me in action with those people in
nothing flat. In fact I'm sure those people will vouch for me.
Whaddya say?

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:33:05 PM
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DrJoe- I'm not posting these things to entertain you (or anyone else
for that matter). I'm only makin points, and point-making and
entertainment don't go hand in hand.

Besides, you just expressed your own opinions, and not necessarily
the opinion of anyone else. Besides #2, I wasn't even talking to you,
so is there areason why you should care how I just posted? NO.

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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 7:04:10 PM
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Allow me to put words in Rob's mouth here.

He doesn't wanna ban you and in fact I don't think he intends to. But
could you just calm down and come in from the window ledge a minute?

You're too far along in life now to ever change, Slipp, so it's
unfair to demand you suddenly become a scintillating prose stylist.
Or even coherent. Just quit using a Sherman tank to swat at
mosquitoes!


Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 7:48:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Islipp:
Dunrobin- whatever you censored there in sickdrjoe's post, thanks.


First, as a point of clarification: a fairly new Porcupine posted two
replies in a row that had absolutely no spaces between his words,
making his comment (whatever it was) into nothing but one extremely
long and incomprehensible "word." Joe was grousing about that (quite
justifiably) and I deleted them (hence my comment in Joe's post that
appears in red.) While that isn't obvious, if you didn't see the
offending posts before they were deleted, I notice, Slipp, that you
naturally assumed the worst.

Originally Posted by sickdrjoe:
He doesn't wanna ban you and in fact I don't think he intends to.


DrJoe is only partially correct here, Islipp. I don't want to ban
you, but I am definitely on the verge of doing just that if you don't
knock it off. I want to make sure that you are clear on that point. I
am not kidding.

Originally Posted by Islipp:
Say the word Dunrobin, and I'll e-mail you a link to the other boards
where you can see first-hand how I interact with others.


I have made it abundently clear, Slipp, in many other discussions
that have appeared on this board, that I do not care what goes on
between you and anyone else on any other message board, Stooge-
related or otherwise. In each of those occasions that was my way of
coming to your defence, when others tried to point out your behavior
elsewhere. However, your behavior on this board in recent days is
becoming a damnable annoyance, and I have had enough.

Consider this my final warning, Islipp. I thought I made myself clear
enough before, but apparently I need to be more specific. Knock off
the assine tirades. Period. End of Story.

Now do you get it?

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shemps#1
Moderator

USA
240 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 8:47:21 PM
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Stay tuned for the post on how the "evil" SDJ must have gotten Rob
to "drink his Kool-Aid" and join the forces of darkness. Not to
mention "I'm leaving if you don't want me" for the millionth time.


Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 8:54:51 PM
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Originally posted by shemps#1

Stay tuned for the post on how the "evil" SDJ must have gotten Rob
to "drink his Kool-Aid" and join the forces of darkness. Not to
mention "I'm leaving if you don't want me" for the millionth time.



KOOL-AID?! Only if he slips a HUGE amount of Bacardi into it!

Now a nice, big blunt, on the other hand...

Seriously, though, if such a post comes, it will be the last one. At
least in that regard you have something to look forward to.

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shemps#1
Moderator

USA
240 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 9:12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dunrobin


Now a nice, big blunt, on the other hand...




I have a nice fat bag of some primo bud, if you're interested!


Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 9:15:39 PM
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Originally posted by shemps#1

Originally posted by Dunrobin


Now a nice, big blunt, on the other hand...




I have a nice fat bag of some primo bud, if you're interested!




Well... Come on over, bro, and fire it up!!

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"Quiet Knumbskulls - I'm broadcasting!"


sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 01:38:05 AM
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OK, to drag this back on topic [though I wanna know how the heck a 7-
11 manager seems to ALWAYS be holding primo bud- and weight besides!):

#1 LIMELIGHT is like watching a car accident in slow motion.
Bruckman's right, I'd rather see Buster in BEACH BLANKET BINGO
(although he's the ONLY good thing in LIMELIGHT). Charlie knew what
he was doing, keeping his mouth shut until 1940.That prissy,
suffering-genius voice of his was the complete opposite of everything
the Little Tramp stood for.

#2 As for Pilsner's comments- Fields made some of his best movies in
his dotage, but they were also among his more surreal. However,
his 'juggling' scene in 1934's THE OLD FASHIONED WAY...when he was 55
...is astonishing. I haven't seen SALLY but I'd stack up OLD
FASHIONED's juggling scene against it in total confidence. Likewise,
Laurel & Hardy's last great film is generally regarded to be CHUMP AT
OXFORD. It was the next twelve years' worth of product that never
should've seen the light of day. Also working against ALL these
fading stars' last attempts was the inflexible Darwinism of the time,
ie Fitzgerald's rueful maxim "there are no second acts in American
life." Once a guy was perceived as done, it tended to become a self-
fulfilling prophecy. There were few 'comebacks' then because fading
names simply weren't given the opportunities, or the properties, or
both. This was one area of the business that actually favored women:
Davis, Crawford, Dietrich & Hepburn were all considered DOA after
achieving early stardom - but each hit upon the perfect vehicle to
return them from Hollywood purgatory. For most male stars, their best
and most varied work is always early in their careers. There were a
few exceptions to this rule, but not many: Dick Powell reinvented
himself completely; Henry Fonda left the movies for awhile, and
returned to icon-making roles; and stars like Jimmy Stewart & Robt
Mitchum grew more interesting with age and continued to get good
parts. But for most aging male leads,it was find the one thing people
associated with you and milk it to death - or be put out to pasture.

#3.As for Pink Floyd, they fall into an interesting category. In rock
& roll, what puts bands over the top is either their IMAGE & YOUTH
APPEAL....or their music. Frankly, I don't think anybody KNEW what
Pink Floyd looked like in the 70s! They didn't do 'rock anthems'
or 'power ballads' nor did they play flabbergastingly
fast/long/complex solos. If groupies were throwing themselves at Nick
Mason or Roger Waters, they had to be pretty damn determinedto even
know which ones they were! So if Gilmour tours this year, and he's
got short gray hair and glasses now....nobody minds, cos they're not
too sure what he looked like then.

As for Lemmy - it's them Cocoa Puffs on his face! Rockers come & go,
but The Berry is forever.


metaldams
Muttonhead

USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 02:23:33 AM
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Originally posted by sickdrjoe

OK, to drag this back on topic [though I wanna know how the heck a 7-
11 manager seems to ALWAYS be holding primo bud- and weight besides!):

#1 LIMELIGHT is like watching a car accident in slow motion.
Bruckman's right, I'd rather see Buster in BEACH BLANKET BINGO
(although he's the ONLY good thing in LIMELIGHT). Charlie knew what
he was doing, keeping his mouth shut until 1940.That prissy,
suffering-genius voice of his was the complete opposite of everything
the Little Tramp stood for.




I only have the first two Chaplin talkies, (The Great Dictator and
Monsieur Verdoux). I like The Great Dictator. Outside of the spectrum
of comedy, I think it's just a good movie in general. It's got a good
story to it and I will disagree with others on the board, (who I know
from past conversations are against it), and say Chaplin's speech at
the end is very effective, though even I'll admit it could've used a
little editing. The only complaint I have about the comedy aspect is
the scenes where the Nazi soldiers are raiding the Jewish ghettos.
Paulette Goddard throwing vases, or whatever it was over Nazi heads
does not lighten up what is a horrible situation. Those scenes
should've been handled as straight drama. Chaplin's scenes with Jack
Oakie and Billy Gilbert were classic. Monsieur Verdoux
is.......different. Definitely the weakest of all the Chaplin
features I've seen, and it runs too long. Very little slapstick and
it is a VERY black comedy. Perhaps the blackest of all black
comedies. You have a sitaution where Chaplin marries all of these
rich women and kills them, just so he can get the money to feed his
family. Not exactly light hearted stuff. It works better from a
dramatic stand point than a comedic one. The story was interesting,
but I don't remember laughing at all, or if I did, it was very
little. To sum it up, a better drama than comedy.

Concerning Chaplin silents, I love all five of those features, but my
favorite of the bunch is The Kid. A very funny movie, and the proper
balance between the pathos everybody speaks of concerning Chaplin and
the comedy is better here than in any of his other features. Also add
that Jackie Coogan was the best 7 year old actor I've ever seen and
made a really fun team to watch with Chaplin, and you've got a true
classic on your hands.

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 02:34:12 AM
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Dunrobin- I'll try to comply, but please understand that there
would've been no "assinine tirades" if you would've just kept
sickdrjoe on a short leash. It's okay if you don't start though. I'll
still try to comply with you as he dumps all over me and others laugh
with him as he criticizes how and what I post. For 2 years, Dunrobin,
2 whole years he has continually belittled me in public mesage
boards. Wouldn't that drive you nuts?

Whether you do or don't decide to keep him in line, I'll MAKE myself
except it. From now on, I'll just stop posting for awhile and cool
off so there will be no more "assinine tirades".

I'm glad he finally got back on topic! Very admirable. Let's run with
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shemps#1
Moderator

USA
240 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 03:36:04 AM
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Originally posted by sickdrjoe

OK, to drag this back on topic [though I wanna know how the heck a 7-
11 manager seems to ALWAYS be holding primo bud- and weight besides!):




By asking around, getting to know the customers. Customer service
pays off in spades.


Bruckman
Applehead

USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 05:47:31 AM
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You're being underused in a 7-11, Shemps. A career in forestry would
really suit you (where you could score some of that Vancouver Island
stuff). If you can run a 7-11 just think how many trees you could put
in the ground. (Not that I presume to speak from experience, just
observation of others).

Slipp, it's not that you want to dictate popular opinion, as you
stated in an earlier post, is it? You just don't like the fact some
of us like Sick and not you. Tough. As said before, your whining
alienates people, not SDJ's attitude. How a man could so continually
contradict himself between intent and act I don't know but it's
obvious you aren't going to wise up to the fact any time soon--you've
had 2 years w/us and it hasn't happened yet.

Concerning Fields: I have seen some of his silent work (SALLY OF THE
SAWDUST and SO'S YOUR OLD MAN). It's hard for me to judge the
juggling scenes in SALLY because Griffith has the bad habit of
cutting away inter alia and sticking in plot sequences, then cutting
back, but Fields' dexterity is amazing. Likewise, even as late as
1944, when he's doing the pool table bit in FOLLOW THE BOYS, his
timing is still there; he can't move quite so fast, but this brief
bit really puts to shame all the surrounding acts by virtue of its
timing. I think the surreal was always a component of the Fieldsian
universe; it's just that studio conventionality kept it under wraps
for the most part until THE BANK DICK and NEVER GIVE A SUCKER AN EVEN
BREAK. The latter actually had a much more coherent storyline in its
original script; in editing a lot of scenes were reshuffled: e.g. the
car chase which concludes the film originally came somewhere in the
middle. SALLY OF THE SAWDUST is really a good film as long as Fields
is onscreen; the non-Fields scenes tend to bog down into melodrama.
It makes me wonder just how much Fields added to his other film
w/Griffith, THAT ROYLE GIRL. From what I remember, SALLY is superior
to the remake POPPY, and closer in tone to YOU CAN'T CHEAT AN HONEST
MAN.

Wm. Everson makes remark that Fields, who liked to defy conventional
narrative pattern, defied the conventional pattern of a Hollywood
career as well (making a comeback in talkies after being washed up in
silents, then refreshing some of his common themes in his last 2
films). I was thinking of this in context of directors, having
recently seen Geo. Stevens' WOMAN OF THE YEAR and reflecting on how
Stevens' work tended toward longwinded epic the last 15 or so years
of his career, and how other directors seem to fall into the same
trap, trying to achieve a late magnum opus--the same tendency that
flaws Chaplin's later work. I don't put THE GREAT DICTATOR on quite
the same plane as Metal, though I can understand Chaplin's need to
make a statement, given that the political atmosphere changed
radically between the film's inception (1937-38, the years of British
appeasement, to 1940, by which time the Blitz was on).


ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 06:30:48 AM
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Bruckman- I do not want to dictate popular opinion and I don't care
who likes who and who doesn't like who. Never did, never will, All I
want is for DrJoe to stay off my back. I really don't think that's
too much to ask.
Why are my complaints whining, but complaints about my posts aren't?

I don't usually contradict myself and when I do, it's unintentional.
I tend to forget a few things I said before too easily. Everyone
probably does it (not that it makes it okay).

And please, stop blaming all of our bad past history on me. I don't
deserve all the blame and this thread is not the place to argue that
point.

Dunrobin- we may really need to talk things through. Please see that
banning be would hasty at this time. If you want to do your
suggestion of making a separate forum for these personal spats, I'll
go along with it.

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Bruckman
Applehead

USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 06:43:23 AM
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"I MUST BREAK YOU." - Ivan Drago, Rocky IV

(Hey, I'm 2 for 2 on the Dolph quotes in as many days)

PS: Slipp, just for the record, I don't want you banned.


Pilsner Panther
Muttonhead

USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 09:08:14 AM
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Slipp, a word to the wise guy... I don't want you banned, either, but
you've really got to cut out this breast-beating, "poor little me"
stuff. Dunrobin told you to stop, and yet you're still at at it. I
usually ignore the whole business, but even I'm finding it irritating
by now, because you've unleashed a real flood of crocodile tears this
time!

For starters, use some willpower and resist the temptation to bait
sickdrjoe, from this moment forward, not later on. Don't try to get
in "one last shot," because of some need to have the last word.
You're overmatched, trying to spar with him verbally; he's already
sliced you up six ways from Sunday and hung you out to dry, but you
keep coming back for more punishment, like an obsessed Wile E.
Coyote. Are you a masochist? It's sure starting to look that way.

So how about making a fresh start? You've been given a last chance,
and that's more than some webmasters would have allowed you. Don't
blow it!

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ISLIPP
Chowderhead

USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 09:50:20 AM
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Thanks Bruckma and Pilsner.

Pilsner- why does it seem like I'm seeking pity? Strange as it may
sound to you, I've never tried to do that, nor have I had the desire.

I will admit that I tried to show Dunrobin that sickdrjoe was
starting to do to me what he's done at other boards (which he was),
by, as you say, baiting him, but in obscure ways that only sickdrjoe
and very few others would understand. But I haven't done that for a
few weeks now, unless I'm forgetting something again.... and whenever
the last time was, it was and will be the very last time.

Please note that rather than having a "temptation to get in "one last
shot"," I was defending myself. I really am an advocate of peae, but
I don't know one such person that would take anyone's guff. I can't
believe that the posts were sickdrjoe starts the trouble are
invisible to everyone but me.

You're right- I am overmatched. He's whpped me in so many verbal
spats it's not funny, but come to think of it, he always did have
that backup.

Fresh start? Yes. I'd like that- for me and sickdrjoe. Please, let's
co-exist, even if it kills us to hold negative comments back from
each other.

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Pilsner Panther
Muttonhead

USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 09:57:45 AM
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All I want is for DrJoe to stay off my back. I really don't think
that's too much to ask.




See? You just baited him, right there. You know he's going to come
down on you for that remark, or at least you ought to by now.

Anyway, I've said all I'm going to say on the subject... the ball is
in your court, Slipp, so try not to drop it.


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Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 10:29:50 AM
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Slipp, I wish I could say I've never met anyone as dense as you, but
I'd be lying like a politician.

Enough is enough. You obviously just don't get it, so I am taking
steps to put a stop to it myself.

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swalacha
Grapehead

USA
54 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 10:40:07 AM
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I'm TRYING to get it! Ban this name too, but I really am trying to
get it. Please explain to me why Pilsner's quote was "baiting". I
really am dense when it comes to this.

I don't mean to trouble you and I'll never be back again if you ban
this name, I swear. But please take a few deep breaths and let's talk
this out.
(THE DUMBEST POSSIBLE SLIPP POST...YET ALSO THE MOST TYPICAL. NO
SENSE SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT - WHEN YOU CAN SET YOURSELF ON
FIRE BESIDES!)



sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 10:40:49 AM
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Don't mind my grousing, Kane. Merely the gray-stubbled bitterness of
a guy whose nice fat bag has been empty for a week now.....


Dunrobin
Webmaster

USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 10:50:38 AM
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Originally posted by swalacha

I'm TRYING to get it! Ban this name too, but I really am trying to
get it. Please explain to me why Pilsner's quote was "baiting". I
really am dense when it comes to this.

I don't mean to trouble you and I'll never be back again if you ban
this name, I swear. But please take a few deep breaths and let's talk
this out.



Thanks, Slipp - you just confirmed that swalacha was in fact one of
your "alter-egos." Got anymore you'd like to try?

My apologies to SDJ and anyone else who tried to point that out. I'll
try to take your warnings more seriously in the future.



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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead

296 Posts
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 11:02:31 AM
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Unbelievable. I tried to tell him to chill out...I TRIED to change
the topic back, to buy him time to reconsider his foolish insistence
on telling & retelling his tale of woe....heck, I didn't even respond
to his last few shots at me! Slipp, all you hadda do was zip your
lip - for a few HOURS! - and you couldn't do it. You'reinsane!
Clinically insane!

You know what - forget me or Kane - Slipp needs to sample that
Vancouver Island product....and pronto!

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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ROFL that is one hell of trip down memory lane! If I don't get some positive karma for re-finding this gold then nothing is deserving of positive karma.

I wish I still had that fat bag...
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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ROFL that is one hell of trip down memory lane! If I don't get some positive karma for re-finding this gold then nothing is deserving of positive karma.


Nag, nag, nag! Okay, you get a Karma point for bringing back "Slipp's Greatest (S)hits."

Which makes you the first person here to break 20; as a token of our appreciation, you win a full set of plastic Ginsu steak knives and a full-length portrait of Richard Nixon shaking hands with Elvis Presley, rendered on beautiful black velvet.

I came in sort of in the middle of all this, since if memory serves me (which it usually doesn't) I stumbled on ThreeStooges.net around the end of 2002, when our friend Slipp was already running under a full head of steam, or whatever it is he runs on. At the time, I was working a night gig with a lot of "down time," so the whole megillah did a lot to keep me entertained— and awake.

 :D

Quote

I wish I still had that fat bag...

Not me, I divorced her years ago! (rim shot)

 [duck]



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By the time I got down to Sickdrjoe saying to Slipp "You're insane! Clinically insane!" I was so overcome by laughter I almost needed oxygen.
I'd thought this stuff was lost long ago.
 
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This must have been after the time I decided [in my quiet-every-man approach, and after several servings of Gordon's Gin] that I could take on ISlipp mano-y-mano with a comment I made, the subject of which I cannot recall now, but I do remember Shemps#1 and several others warning me NOT to do so, fearing for my safety, which I appreciate, and I still adhere to the advice given while posting here at our beloved site, and any other website, for that matter ... silence is GOLDEN.
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Thanks for posting this Jim.  Both the responses to the actual topic and the SLIPP meltdown (I'm TRYING to understand, I'm dumb!), were awesome.  Great reading!
- Doug Sarnecky


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Nine years later and I can still smoke up and laugh at this. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish." - Unknown


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While listening to that song, I had slow motion visions of me literally falling out of my chair from laughter reading the cardboard box and dog stories.  Yes folks, in the literal sense, I fell out of my chair laughing when I read that.

Can't believe it's been over a decade.  I don't think I've grown up one bit.
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I LOL'd at this... I finally understand who Slipp is...

Holy cow!
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I LOL'd at this... I finally understand who Slipp is...

Holy cow!

Those were days where I had much more energy for message board flame wars than I do now.  I think the modern version of me would just ignore him.  Still, holy cow just about sums it up.
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I have actually been on multiple boards (and still am on one of them) where the majority of the people are Islipp's and the minority of the people are like you!  So whenever there's an argument from some dumb newbie jerk (an Islipp), it's PaulPayne the 10-year veteran of the board (the Dunrobin, if you will) getting sh*tstormed!

I was part of a fantasy sports league forum and got banned because I made a statement disagreeing with the moderator's POLITICAL views... I then purposefully got banned when I found out that the managers all rigged it so that their teams won every game and every title.

I honestly love this website and hope to stay a while!  You guys are awesome and there's no politics involved!  Now let's laugh at Slipp!
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I have actually been on multiple boards (and still am on one of them) where the majority of the people are Islipp's and the minority of the people are like you!  So whenever there's an argument from some dumb newbie jerk (an Islipp), it's PaulPayne the 10-year veteran of the board (the Dunrobin, if you will) getting sh*tstormed!

I was part of a fantasy sports league forum and got banned because I made a statement disagreeing with the moderator's POLITICAL views... I then purposefully got banned when I found out that the managers all rigged it so that their teams won every game and every title.

I honestly love this website and hope to stay a while!  You guys are awesome and there's no politics involved!  Now let's laugh at Slipp!

I actually have very strong political views myself, but I try my best, more so these days than in the old days, to limit my airing of them.  I would certainly never ban anybody for disagreeing with me in politics, especially when this is a Three Stooges board.  The only circumstances I'd ban anybody is if they are regularly rude and disruptive or literally ask for it.

As far as the majority of people being Slipps on other boards, I honestly don't think that's humanly possible.   ;D  I believe there are jerks and loons on other boards, but trust me, the tip of the iceberg hasn't been scratched with Slipp. I wish the guy well any way, enough time has passed, I just choose not to associate with him any longer.

It's great having you here too, man.  You and the half a dozen or so others who regularly respond are what keep me going every week.  Besides, we need more early twenties Stooge fans such as yourself, it shows there's hope for the future.
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Forgive me for saying this, but looking back on what I read, I think I am glad that many of these people (and not just Islipp) are gone.  Some of them just seem to be genuinely... trashy... in a bad way that would have made me leave very quickly if they were still here.  And there are others I regret never getting the chance to exchange conversations with.
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