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General Discussion / Re: Question for Red Sox fans: Alex Verdugo
« Last post by NoahYoung on November 06, 2024, 06:34:23 PM »
Yes, but unfortunately few Yankees performed well. Judge made his only error of the entire season which cost the Yankees the 5th and final game.

Verdugo's a free agent now if you want him back.
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Youtube and Google Videos / Hal Roach (at age 90) on Letterman (1982)
« Last post by Samurai on November 04, 2024, 11:38:51 PM »
I'm fairly certain many here have seen this, but for those who haven't...enjoy.  [cool]

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General Discussion / Re: Question for Red Sox fans: Alex Verdugo
« Last post by metaldams on November 04, 2024, 10:59:05 PM »
Verdugo was actually a clutch player on the Red Sox.  He actually has more walk off hits for The Red Sox this century than anybody not named David Ortiz.  Not surprised he performed decent in the World Series.
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Random Comedy Reviews / Re: ANOTHER WILD IDEA (1934) Charley Chase
« Last post by metaldams on November 04, 2024, 09:39:09 PM »
Got this on DVD, will give this a rewatch soon.
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Youtube and Google Videos / Re: Music videos you like - post here.
« Last post by Dunrobin on November 03, 2024, 06:16:20 PM »
Pantaloons by TAPE FIVE

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I need to look up how they did on WASHEE IRONEE now. Sometimes they cut out a lot of the laundry scene, including on the first DVDs. I believe it was corrected at some point.

These companies need to hire knowledeable collectors as consultants on these releases. They will catch everything that may fall through the cracks.

Guess where nothing fell through the cracks? On the original Blackhawk Our Gang releases on real film!
 :D
The Blackhawk version of BEAR SHOOTERS on youtube is also missing the scenes, and is different from my Super 8 Blackhawk print. Probably because they didn't want to show lips moving with no sound.



'm curious what the source was, since that was not one of the shorts with Blackhawk titles on the Genius DVD set. I know it's PD, but the PD releases would have copied it from another video source and wouldn't have gone to the trouble of scanning a Blackhawk print.

Blackhawk themselves released the Our Gang shorts on their own VHS tapes in the early 80s, but that video doesn't look like a VHS source was used. I'm not sure what was released on laser disc prior to the Cabin Fever releases -- and I'm not sure if those were ever released on laser. I have some Republic Pictures VHS tapes which used the Blackhawk video masters, but I'm pretty sure BEAR SHOOTERS was not re-issued by Republic, since they stuck mostly to the Spanky era, with a handful of exceptions. I need to do some more research.

This site lists companies that released Our Gang on video. The link is hidden from the main site, for some reason:
https://www.theluckycorner.com/vc/

Many possibilites, but from what I've seen, not all identify enough details of the BEAR SHOOTERS source used.

Again, my point is I would find it hard to believe that those PD releases would scan a print rather than just use another video release as the source.
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I just found this. Apparently BEAR SHOOTERS isn't complete.

https://littlerascals.proboards.com/thread/1904/little-rascals-centennial-collection-review

There's no excuse for it not to be on the new restorations, since it was on the OCN that a previous release used. These companies just cannot get it right!

That's disappointing.
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I just found this. Apparently BEAR SHOOTERS isn't complete.

https://littlerascals.proboards.com/thread/1904/little-rascals-centennial-collection-review

Quote

This may seem like beating a dead horse (Or a bear, or a gorilla?), but there's 2 spots in the initial outdoors scene in which lines are missing from BEAR SHOOTERS (1930) RHI and ClassicFlix releases.

Here is everything that is missing as far as I know:

- At around 2 minutes, the first scene cuts to Norman “Chubby” Chaney licking his lips instead of Jackie Cooper and his first line directed at Chubby, which is “Well, ain’t that some [unintelligible], Chub?” on the ClassicFlix Blu-ray edit. On the RHI DVD and Cabin Fever Laserdisc transfers, the end of Jackie Cooper’s line “[Unintelligible] Chub?” is audible before the scene cuts from the Bedroom just after Spud and Wheezer’s mom walks out of camera range to the outdoors scene. This only serves to telegraph the fact there is dialogue missing from this first outdoors scene! It has taken numerous playbacks from all 3 transfers for me to suss out that the visual edits are exactly the same; with the only difference being that Jackie Cooper’s initial clipped line isn’t present on the ClassicFlix transfer. Sorting out this truly bizarre edit almost drove me off the deep end!

- The second instance of missing dialogue begins near the 6 minute mark, right after Spud (Leon Janney) says to Allen "Farina" Hoskins; “Sure I’m goin'!”
Spud: Suppose I’ll get whipped though! Darn it, I’m goin' anyhow!
Farina: Come on, let’s get going.

On the ClassicFlix Blu-ray and RHI-Entertainment DVD, the scene picks up where Farina says “Come on, Mule!”


All of these lines are intact on the BEAR SHOOTERS (1930) transfer as presented on the long out of print "Laurel And Hardy And Friends" DVD by Image Entertainment, and there is indeed a wee bit of extra footage after the bedroom scene, in which we can hear Jackie Cooper’s initial line complete, instead of his clipped line being heard over the end of the bedroom scene, which is so unexpected, and truly bizarre, it’s no wonder I never noticed it previously! The Image Entertainment DVD is the best quality home video release to include all BEAR SHOOTERS (1930) missing lines, to the best of my knowledge! Please feel free to correct me on this point and/or any others! Needless to say, I’ll be keeping this disc, if only for occasional point of reference! Also, according to that DVD's liner notes BEAR SHOOTERS (1930) is one of 3 shorts on this disc that were from Original Camera Nitrate Negatives.

There's no excuse for it not to be on the new restorations, since it was on the OCN that a previous release used. These companies just cannot get it right!
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I never went there, but I heard about it.

Actually, the batting practice pitcher I knew (Tony Ferrara) was also an actor and appeared in THE NATURAL as a coach, but no lines, and he was the advisor for all the baseball scenes.

Shamsky established a baseball league in Israel, and Tony went there for awhile as a coach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Ferrara

He was 3 years older than my father, but lied about his age, and had told my father he was about 10-15 years younger. My father told me he never believed him!

The last time I saw Tony was around the early 90s.

He segued into the fact that he was in THE NATURAL every chance he could get! He was sitting at our table at a Yankees homecoming dinner once, and the tables were numbered. He pointed at the number and said: "That's the number I wore in THE NATURAL!" That night during the cocktail hour, he introduced me to Rickey Henderson, which was fun. Rickey asked me, "Do you know what they're serving for dinner?" I guess he was hungry! :)

When I met Joe D that time, he asked me who was pitching that night!

I met Phi Rizzuto several times. Once it was opening day, and Colin Powell was throwing out the first pitch. The Scooter asked me the correct pronunciation of his first name, since he was of course announcing the game that day.

What this all has to do with the topic of this thread -- I haven't a clue!
 :)
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So, did you expect everything to remain unchanged for 94 years? :D

Funny, because I recently picked up a Super 8 Blackhawk copy and watched it the other day. It is actually a little better than I'd given it credit for over the years. I just wish studios like Roach didn't stoop to guys in gorilla suits so much.

Do those new restorations restore the missing bits from previous releases? My Blackhawk copy has them, but the soundtrack is mute for the portions missing from the DVDs. So that gives a clue to why those DVDs were missing the bits -- rather than having dialog that couldn't be heard, they cut out the visuals, too.

The sound was probably recorded on a Victor disc, and perhaps portions were damaged in the only available copies throughout the years.

I had heard that the L&H and Friends DVD had everything intact, but you can't believe everything you "hear" on the Web.

As far as I know, nothing has been edited out and the films are as "complete" as they can possibly be.

And yes... when stuck for a good comedy idea, ALWAYS use a guy in a gorilla suit!