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Film & Shorts Discussions => The Three Stooges - Curly Years => Topic started by: Paul Pain on December 12, 2016, 07:44:53 AM
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This should give us about 8 weeks to decide, as in that amount of time we should be finished with the DeRita feature films and the Besser solo shorts. This will mean that Paul Pain (a.k.a. Alex) will be taking over the reviews. And boy are there lots of things to choose from. Depending on what material I can find, we will be doing either one or two. Mood swings decide your fate.
Three rules I will have:
(1) The material must be something that is still on air (e.g. someone could eventually watch the episodes and catch up even if years from now).
(2) If one cannot be met, it must be available on YouTube. This will remove some shorts as, while available on VHS or DVD, they aren't on YouTube, and I haven't the VHS/DVDs.
(3) Some of my suggestions are ridiculous and are just there because I know I would have fun and could competently lead the reviews.
Unfortunately, with the C3/Sony spies afoot these parts, posting a link to YouTube may very well get a channel I was planning to do 10-20 reviews from shut down. If this does occur, I will probably press ahead anyway just because some of these shorts are so bloody fun or interesting that you (hopefully) will find yourself sitting down to watch a short and annoying the missus after a 1-3 hour binge.
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Buster Keaton silent would be awesome and my number one, as would finishing up Laurel and Hardy...if people would participate in the latter.
I'll participate either way.
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C'mon, people! Vote!
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I would either want to see L&H finished up - unless the issue was that it just wasn't getting enough feedback - or move on to the Healy era. Since nearly everything touched by the Stooges has already been covered, that would be the next logical step, in my opinion.
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I want to see L&H finished up because I haven't been a consistent poster on the Weekly Episode Discussions, but I definitely would be if we were able to watch the remaining films. I have all of the sound ones on DVD that I would be willing to take out and re-watch classics and watch some of the ones I've never seen before.
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What about The New Three Stooges cartoons?
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What about The New Three Stooges cartoons?
I decide to do this, it will be as a lump doing the whole show in one review.
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I decide to do this, it will be as a lump doing the whole show in one review.
Don't blame you. One episode at a time would be beyond mind numbing. Good solution.
I still don't have the set with all the shorts. Just have the set that has maybe the first sixteen entries or something, and it's been years since I've watched it.
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Don't blame you. One episode at a time would be beyond mind numbing. Good solution.
I still don't have the set with all the shorts. Just have the set that has maybe the first sixteen entries or something, and it's been years since I've watched it.
I've never seen any. [pie]
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I've never seen any. [pie]
Well, here you go. Typical stuff, pies a-flying. The animation is pretty awful, the live stuff is a bit better. Once you're on youtube you can check out other cartoons too.
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
Going back to the Arbuckles, wow! I would have personally started with Keaton solo proper, but hey, that's cool, I can definitely talk the Arbuckles too. Looking forward to doing Keaton! Hope others will be joining in.
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
I will be an active contributor! Keaton and his movies have always fascinated me, but I just haven't gotten around to seeing a ton of them. I've basically seen THE GENERAL and CONEY ISLAND among a few others and that's it. I'm excited to start the discussions!
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The best part about the early pre-1923 Arbuckle/Keaton and solo Keaton shorts is that they are public domain!
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The best part about the early pre-1923 Arbuckle/Keaton and solo Keaton shorts is that they are public domain!
True that.
Should be a fun journey overall, and I really hope people participate. Buster Keaton is an influence on The Three Stooges gag and story wise, and a hell of a lot of fun. To you guys who don't think you'll participate, I challenge you to watch the links Paul posts and participate. You'll become a fan.
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I would vote for anything that can be seen without buying new DVDs, or CDs, or whatever, in other words anything we can see online for free. I simply have too, too many clamshells in my house now and I'm trying to divest, with no success at all, and I'm guessing that many of us are in the same situation whether we admit it or not. I would be fine with, say, a weekly bulletin reading Hey, boys and girls, go to xyz site and check out this 1945 relevant ( ie Andy Clyde, Buster Keaton, Schilling and Lane, Healy and his Stooges, etc, etc, etc. ) either directly or vaguely stooge-related flick. We don't have to be strictly personnel-oriented or chronologically consistent.
I'll give a good, easy example: for the last year, youTube has featured the absolute finest example of Abbott and Costello's Who's On First, from their TV episode Retired Actors' Home. It's a scream, and it's in what amounts to hi-def. This is THE definitive version, and as of today I don't think it's been widely seen. Their version in The Naughty Nineties is nothing compared to this one. It would be lots of fun to discuss that, incomparable as it is. Likewise, diligent research turned up just last week a Danny Thomas 1965 TV special that featured the Stooges, Martha Raye, Ruth Buzzi, and about six minutes of idiotic burlesque-style humor. Let's talk about that. Two weeks from now we will have covered everything from 1930 to 1965 in what I would say, immodestly, is a legitimate and scholarly manner, and since from now on the career of the Stooges is decidedly more scattershot, I'd say that our comments could be the same. Paul Pain, this approach would put extra pressure on you, since you would have to dig up and introduce these random vaguely stooge-related entries, whatever they may be, always remembering that no one wants to buy anything. And remember, the last few months, there's only been about ten of us participating, plus if anything, after Outlaws, that number is likely to go down. This is a thankless gig you've signed up for, pal.
Oh and yes, my vote would be for the Keaton Columbias, for free of course. I'm kidding. I would actually buy the Keaton Columbias, if I could find them and if they were cheap enough.
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I would vote for anything that can be seen without buying new DVDs, or CDs, or whatever, in other words anything we can see online for free. I simply have too, too many clamshells in my house now and I'm trying to divest, with no success at all, and I'm guessing that many of us are in the same situation whether we admit it or not. I would be fine with, say, a weekly bulletin reading Hey, boys and girls, go to xyz site and check out this 1945 relevant ( ie Andy Clyde, Buster Keaton, Schilling and Lane, Healy and his Stooges, etc, etc, etc. ) either directly or vaguely stooge-related flick. We don't have to be strictly personnel-oriented or chronologically consistent.
I'll give a good, easy example: for the last year, youTube has featured the absolute finest example of Abbott and Costello's Who's On First, from their TV episode Retired Actors' Home. It's a scream, and it's in what amounts to hi-def. This is THE definitive version, and as of today I don't think it's been widely seen. Their version in The Naughty Nineties is nothing compared to this one. It would be lots of fun to discuss that, incomparable as it is. Likewise, diligent research turned up just last week a Danny Thomas 1965 TV special that featured the Stooges, Martha Raye, Ruth Buzzi, and about six minutes of idiotic burlesque-style humor. Let's talk about that. Two weeks from now we will have covered everything from 1930 to 1965 in what I would say, immodestly, is a legitimate and scholarly manner, and since from now on the career of the Stooges is decidedly more scattershot, I'd say that our comments could be the same. Paul Pain, this approach would put extra pressure on you, since you would have to dig up and introduce these random vaguely stooge-related entries, whatever they may be, always remembering that no one wants to buy anything. And remember, the last few months, there's only been about ten of us participating, plus if anything, after Outlaws, that number is likely to go down. This is a thankless gig you've signed up for, pal.
Oh and yes, my vote would be for the Keaton Columbias, for free of course. I'm kidding. I would actually buy the Keaton Columbias, if I could find them and if they were cheap enough.
Have no fears! Schilling and Lane (et al.) and the Keaton Columbias are (1) available online and (2) on the agenda!
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I'll also be taking part in the Keaton discussions. Really looking forward to them!
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
This is good timing, I just picked up the blu-ray of Keaton's silent shorts a little while back, and I just watched the first two (including BUTCHER BOY) last week, so my viewing might be in synch with these reviews for once.
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
So, about the Keaton discussion: Are we doing his feature films at all? If so, would we just be doing the feature films where he is featured prominently or would we also be doing the ones where he has supporting roles?
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So, about the Keaton discussion: Are we doing his feature films at all? If so, would we just be doing the feature films where he is featured prominently or would we also be doing the ones where he has supporting roles?
We'll be doing the ones starring Buster. Whether they'll be in order with his short subject films is TBD.
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We'll be doing the ones starring Buster. Whether they'll be in order with his short subject films is TBD.
Okay. Good. Because there are a couple of assorted short subjects and feature films where he's only in a tenth of the film, so it seems like it would be a bit odd if we would review those films. However, very much looking forward to the Buster Keaton discussion and I'm glad that you're starting with the Roscoe Arbuckle shorts as this is where his character really started to take shape and started to evolve into the Buster that would become famous in films like The General.
Edit: I corrected by grammar in my original post, so I corrected it in this post where my post was quoted.
Alex (Paul Pain)
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Coming back to this...
Would folks be more willing to participate if I started doing some kind of talkies on the side? I can't guarantee weekly until I have better circumstances, but it's something?
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Coming back to this...
Would folks be more willing to participate if I started doing some kind of talkies on the side? I can't guarantee weekly until I have better circumstances, but it's something?
I really just think it's lack of interest outside of The Stooges. I'm just thankful for the few who are participating, and think there's a chance another person or two may join in with Keaton proper.
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Get yourselves ready, folks. This week, we'll be reviewing Buster Keaton's ONE WEEK!
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Get yourselves ready, folks. This week, we'll be reviewing Buster Keaton's ONE WEEK!
*prepares parade*
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Out of curiosity, are we going to do the MGM Healy shorts anytime soon? They might be very interesting to discuss.
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Out of curiosity, are we going to do the MGM Healy shorts anytime soon? They might be very interesting to discuss.
The cartoons are a bit much. There's too many of them and the whole repeated wrap around live action thing gets confusing....on that I'll pass. However, the Healy shorts, the few that there are, I'll seriously consider once I'm done with the Keaton shorts in a few months. Being a Stooge site, I actually think that's a good idea.
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The cartoons are a bit much. There's too many of them and the whole repeated wrap around live action thing gets confusing....on that I'll pass. However, the Healy shorts, the few that there are, I'll seriously consider once I'm done with the Keaton shorts in a few months. Being a Stooge site, I actually think that's a good idea.
I had thought I was going to do these once I had attained independence.
Joke was on me.
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I had thought I was going to do these once I had attained independence.
Joke was on me.
I wasn't aware you still were doing reviews, but since you are, take all the time you need to get settled.
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I wasn't aware you still were doing reviews, but since you are, take all the time you need to get settled.
Go ahead and do them. I will be able to participate on these, but I picked a school in an area where no graduate student can reasonably afford to live.
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Speaking of this... if I hauled some silent comedies (since that's about all I can do right now), would y'all be willing to participate? I make no promises about getting "big" names.
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Speaking of this... if I hauled some silent comedies (since that's about all I can do right now), would y'all be willing to participate? I make no promises about getting "big" names.
I suppose as long as they’re easily accessible, I would. Did you have any particular choices in mind?
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Go ahead and do them. I will be able to participate on these, but I picked a school in an area where no graduate student can reasonably afford to live.
As soon as I'm done with Keaton, will dive into the Healy stuff, meaning SOUP TO NUTS and the MGM shorts.
Good luck in school. I refinance student loans for a living and know how ridiculous the cost of college is. It's a bubble waiting to burst.
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Speaking of this... if I hauled some silent comedies (since that's about all I can do right now), would y'all be willing to participate? I make no promises about getting "big" names.
Go as obscure as you want, you know I'll participate. If you want to go bigger names, Harold Lloyd's two and three reelers should all be on YouTube and the 12 Chaplin Mutual shorts as well would be another idea, but you do what you want.
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I was thinking Harold Lloyd or Charlie Chaplin, if I can stomach their makeup. Maybe we'll dive into Larry Semon if I find any.
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Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, the Bowery Boys, and Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle were what came to my mind.
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Dean Martin & Jerry Lewis, the Bowery Boys, and Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle were what came to my mind.
The Arbuckle films with Keaton are already done in the Buster Keaton section. Paul Pain reviewed one of the talkies Shemp was in in the solo Stooge section. Outside of that, maybe a few random ones, but he did so many films and so many are lost or hard to obtain.
Bowery Boys would be cool, take about a year, and I would consider doing if more people would show interest. Surprised more Stooge fans don’t like them, I maintain The Three Stooges should have been making features like that starting in 1953, or maybe earlier.
As for Martin and Lewis, I’d have to do a lot of shopping. I’ve only seen four or five of their films as I’m not a big fan. Who knows, maybe one day.
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Bowery Boys would be cool, take about a year, and I would consider doing if more people would show interest. Surprised more Stooge fans don’t like them, I maintain The Three Stooges should have been making features like that starting in 1953, or maybe earlier.
I haven't seen the Bowery Boys films in many years, although I watched them religiously every weekend in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and found them, with rare exceptions, to be outrageously funny and entertaining. It's about time I take stock of my life and purchase the full set of their films. If I like them half as much now as I liked them in the past, it would significantly more than 95% of the current films masquerading as comedies. Here's one vote for reviewing the Bowery Boys.
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I haven't seen the Bowery Boys films in many years, although I watched them religiously every weekend in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and found them, with rare exceptions, to be outrageously funny and entertaining. It's about time I take stock of my life and purchase the full set of their films. If I like them half as much now as I liked them in the past, it would significantly more than 95% of the current films masquerading as comedies. Here's one vote for reviewing the Bowery Boys.
Del Lord directed one of the earlier efforts, Christine McIntyre appeared in a film, Edward Bernds directed a bunch after he left Columbia, Leo Gorcey is a younger Moe with a great understanding of how to butcher the English language and Huntz Hall was a friend and great admirer of Shemp. Glad you’d be interested, one I wouldn’t mind doing.
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Del Lord directed one of the earlier efforts, Christine McIntyre appeared in a film, Edward Bernds directed a bunch after he left Columbia, Leo Gorcey is a younger Moe with a great understanding of how to butcher the English language and Huntz Hall was a friend and great admirer of Shemp. Glad you’d be interested, one I wouldn’t mind doing.
Not to mention a couple of Emil Sitka appearances.....
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Not to mention a couple of Emil Sitka appearances.....
That’s right!
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The Ritz Brothers.
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The Charley Chase sound shorts.
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The Abbott and Costello Show.
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The Charley Chase sound shorts.
The final volume of Roach shorts has to be released first before I’d even consider, but that’s an interesting possibility. I do enjoy the Chase shorts as a whole.
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The Abbott and Costello Show.
The thought’s crossed my mind. Definitely their best stuff for the most part. We’ll see.
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Here's a couple more. Olsen and Johnson, and Bing Crosby and Bob Hope's Road to... series.
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Here's a couple more. Olsen and Johnson, and Bing Crosby and Bob Hope's Road to... series.
Olsen and Johnson I’ve hardly seen enough of.
The Road movies I enjoy very much, but there’s only a handful of them. If I were to go that route, I may look into including Bob Hope solo.
I’d love to do W.C. Fields, Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd and Harry Langdon, but not sure how many participants I’d get.
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I figured out what I’m going to do when done with Abbott and Costello. I will review...........nobody in particular. I have decided when the time comes, I will start a new board and review whatever the heck old comedy film I want. Meaning one week I might do a Chaplin feature, the next week an obscure Columbia short, then maybe W.C. Fields....etc. Maybe even a Ritz Brothers film to make Luke happy. :-) You get the idea. Since I’ve been doing this almost every weekend for about six years now, I think mixing up comedians and keeping myself and everyone else guessing will keep things fresh. But again, I’m finishing up Abbott and Costello first.
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Another thing I want to add is that while I will mostly review silent and golden age comedies, I will occasionally dip into more modern stuff like Monty Python, Spinal Tap, and other things. I’m looking forward to the freedom.
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I figured out what I’m going to do when done with Abbott and Costello. I will review...........nobody in particular. I have decided when the time comes, I will start a new board and review whatever the heck old comedy film I want. Meaning one week I might do a Chaplin feature, the next week an obscure Columbia short, then maybe W.C. Fields....etc. Maybe even a Ritz Brothers film to make Luke happy. :-) You get the idea. Since I’ve been doing this almost every weekend for about six years now, I think mixing up comedians and keeping myself and everyone else guessing will keep things fresh. But again, I’m finishing up Abbott and Costello first.
I know of some great resources for old Columbia shorts, but if you're interested in those PM me because I trust not the Sony-Columbia spies.
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Because of circumstances (mostly that I can't watch talkie L&H shorts due to my living circumstances), we will be starting on Saturday, February 4, 2017, with the Roscoe Arbuckle/Buster Keaton film THE BUTCHER BOY.
I can hardly wait!
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