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Special Boards => Music That Sucks => Topic started by: shemps#1 on June 28, 2009, 12:12:27 PM
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For this MTS Special I want to hear from you guys. Everyone has certain music acts that for one reason or another they are embarrassed to admit that they actually like. It could that you know that they suck but there is a certain "je ne sais qua" that gets you to go out and buy their music (or illegally download, whatever the case may be). Perhaps they act is universally clowned by the masses and you keep this musical skeleton in your closet out of fear of being made fun of. Shit, maybe this music is so far from what you usually listen to that people who know you would scratch their heads and ask "are you serious?" if you told them.
So let me know, what is your dirty little musical secret? If you tell me yours I'll tell you mine.
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Shit, maybe this music is so far from what you usually listen to that people who know you would scratch their heads and ask "are you serious?" if you told them.
So let me know, what is your dirty little musical secret? If you tell me yours I'll tell you mine.
Elton John. I like a lot of his songs, but many people say to me: "Are you serious? That guy is gay!"
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(gathers up strength) (tries to be nonchalant)
The Captain & Tennille
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This has been named as one of the worst songs ever, but I think it's kind of sweet and still a fan favorite among Bobby Goldsboro fans. The video is certainly funny. ;D
Bobby Goldsboro 'Honey'
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Hair metal. Put on "Round and Round" from Ratt and I'm in Heaven. I dance to Bon Jovi at weddings. I have Warrant and Poison greatest hits album. I saw Twisted Sister in concert. Yes, I intellectually know most of it is crap, but it was really the first music i was exposed to for better or worse, and the videos were the first time I noticed women.
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Elton John. I like a lot of his songs, but many people say to me: "Are you serious? That guy is gay!"
I like Elton John's early stuff, no guilt necessary. Tons of musical artists were gay, it means nothing. Heck, Tchaikhovsky was gay.
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X: I have to second Doug, Elton John's early stuff is comparable to almost anyone else's canon. He and Taupin had a chemistry when it came to creating great music, whether rocking or ballad. He also had a wonderful voice in his youth. His later stuff saddens me though.
Fred: Why Captain and Tennille? Yours has to be the "best" admission so far.
Other Fred: The one thing that irks me about "Honey" is the "non-definitive" ending fade out that was a lot more common back then. Although I don't really care for the song calling it one of the worst is harsh.
Doug: You already know my stance on hair metal so I need not elaborate.
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Other Fred: The one thing that irks me about "Honey" is the "non-definitive" ending fade out that was a lot more common back then. Although I don't really care for the song calling it one of the worst is harsh.
Oh, I didn't say it was one of the worst songs ever. I said that it's been named one of the worst songs ever. I personally like it myself, it has a nice melancholy quality to it. And like I mentioned, it is a favorite with the Bobby Goldsboro fans.
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I like Elton John's early stuff, no guilt necessary.
X: I have to second Doug, Elton John's early stuff is comparable to almost anyone else's canon. He and Taupin had a chemistry when it came to creating great music, whether rocking or ballad. He also had a wonderful voice in his youth. His later stuff saddens me though.
Wow! I wasn't expecting those responses. I got made fun of in high school because I made the mistake of telling a couple of people that I listen to his music. Not sure how early is early, but I like his 70s and 80s songs a lot and just a small portion of his 90s stuff.
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Captain & Tenille???? LOL!! That takes true cojones to admit.......Elton John? GAY!!!! My wife bought tix for us to see him in Vegas.....I did my best to get out of it.....didn't work. I do NOT like him. As talented as he is, I just do not like his brand of music. He put on a good show (not great....too many effects, etc.) and he truly came across as a whiny little bitch.
My own bad musical taste? I like a lot of 80s bad Hair-metal bands: Helix, Icon, Kix.....and so on. Although, nowadays I don't listen to them anymore, I did enjoy them once upon a time....what was I thinking?
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I also like The Captain & Tennille. Yes, it's a guilty pleasure. I also like The Partridge Family. I have all of their studio albums on CD. [bonk]
I also have a few records by Bobby Sherman. [smack]
Yeah, so much for my musical integrity now. [doh]
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I'm listening to THE WHO SELL OUT as I type this, no guilt there. ;D
We need a music that rocks section.
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I'm listening to THE WHO SELL OUT as I type this, no guilt there. ;D
We need a music that rocks section.
Yes! I totally agree. In fact, I was thinking about that very thing the other day. Music That Sucks serves a purpose, but it's all negative. If we have a board that has Music That Rocks, it will be very positive. Instead of guilty pleasures, we can post music that we're not afraid to tell the world that we know it's awesome. I think that would be a great idea.
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I have to agree with Doug and archiezappa. While some people may not like the idea of a Music That Rocks section, I think it's a great idea. It'll be a good to hear why exactly someone likes that certain type of music. Maybe pick an artist that very few people like and tell us why exactly you're into that kind of music. Not a bad idea at all.
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It's not that I am against a "music that rocks" section, but what I am against is the whining about "negativity" and the bellyaching about a "need for positivity". MTS works because I am a pretty decent writer writing about subjects that interest me, and I don't think most of the people could write about their favorite music acts without putting the reader to sleep. Believe it or not a lot of work goes into each MTS induction (which is why they have become more infrequent over the years) and a whole section of people saying "I like so-and-so" sounds very boring to me especially when most people do not have the chops to make it compelling.
If the "music that rocks" would be nothing but information well I can easily search for that information on websites devoted the groups or music websites in general. I also highly doubt most of the people here would be able to inject genuine humor into a subject they are trying to pay homage to. Take for instance Old Fred's treatise on The Monkees. He wrote it as a rebuttal to my MTS induction and quite frankly bored me to tears to the point where I couldn't get halfway through it (I hate to pick on him but his the only example I came up with).
The greatest compliments I have gotten in regards to MTS are the ones where the readers disagreed with me but enjoyed the article anyway.
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To each his own, Sir. I was just trying to correct some inaccuracies I perceived in the original Monkees post. Don't want to turn this into a flame, so let's just leave it thus, OK? ;)
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Yeah, I forgot to mention the Monkees were musical gods. ::)
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<Psst, no one tell Fred I'm just teasing him>
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<Psst, no one tell Fred I'm just teasing him>
Your secret's safe with me. ;)
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<Psst, no one tell Fred I'm just teasing him>
Oooooooo, I'll give you such a pinch!!!! [pie]
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If written properly, a Music That Rocks thread would be pretty good. What interested me about Music That Sucks is that there were certain things I disagreed with, but at the same time, I found it interesting to read why exactly you hated that type of music. Music That Rocks could be the flip side. Someone can post a music they like but I hate and I get to read why they like that music, which I find to be horrible. One artist that comes to mind is Prince. I'm dying to know why people like songs like "When Doves Cry" and whatnot. Of course, it has to be written properly. A simple history of the artist/group is not going to work.
There was nothing wrong with Fred's Monkees post, per se. The main problem I had with it was: it was too long and it prevented me from even reading it. I'm sure a lot of effort was put into that post and I appreciate Fred's hard work to defend the group. I'm sure it was a good post and I'm sure people who read it enjoyed it, but I'm the kind of person that judges a book by its cover. So, that's what caused me to turn away from it and not even read it.
Music That Rocks can work, but some serious work has to be put into it to make it interesting.
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Personally, I don't think that a "Music That Rocks" board would work all that well. What makes the Music That Sucks board so good is Jim's biting humor and colorful turn of phrase (to put it mildly.) For me it's not so much what Jim hates as the way he expresses his disdain for the subject of his review. You just can't get the same effect with a positive review. ;)
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I'd just like to re-clarify something which I believe I've mentioned before. I know two of the Monkees, Peter and Davy, and have worked with the group and Davy on some book projects, as well as being the MC on the early 1980's Monkees conventions. So, I do have a bit of a history with the group. I also have great concerns for Peter in his cancer battle. He's getting his treatments and keeping to a performing schedule and showing a very brave face despite what he's going through which I greatly admire.
And I do find the Monkees/Stooges connection fascinating in that they both worked for Columbia Pictures and the majority of the Monkees episodes were shot on the same sets used by the Stooges. They even shared the same cinematographer, Irving Lippman, who also worked with Micky Dolenz on 'Circus Boy' in the 1950's.
I do beg everyone's pardon.
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I guess it's ok if you don't think it'll work. I just thought Metaldams and Archiezappa had a pretty good idea there. Like I said, it "can" work if serious work is put into making it interesting. It doesn't exactly have to contain "biting humor" or whatever else MTS had. There are other ways to make it interesting. It was a good idea, while it lasted. Just my two cents.
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I have very mixed feelings on MUSIC THAT ROCKS. I love music so much and would like good articles on Black Sabbath, The Kinks, The Who, Motorhead, etc. etc. etc. I do realize it would never be as entertaining as Jim's stuff, but I betcha if I really put some thought in it, I could write some interesting articles.
But thought, there lies the problem. I work 40 hours a week and commute 90 minutes round trip every day. When I get home, I just wanna eat dinner and watch the ball game, fuck thought. Sure, the thought would be worth it if I thought anybody would actually care about the articles, but it's hard enough to get people to contribute two or three paragraph Three Stooges reviews on this site (which I find very depressing), nevermind being open minded enough to read about a band they most likely don't care about, no matter how well written.
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I have very mixed feelings on MUSIC THAT ROCKS. I love music so much and would like good articles on Black Sabbath, The Kinks, The Who, Motorhead, etc. etc. etc. I do realize it would never be as entertaining as Jim's stuff, but I betcha if I really put some thought in it, I could write some interesting articles.
But thought, there lies the problem. I work 40 hours a week and commute 90 minutes round trip every day. When I get home, I just wanna eat dinner and watch the ball game, fuck thought. Sure, the thought would be worth it if I thought anybody would actually care about the articles, but it's hard enough to get people to contribute two or three paragraph Three Stooges reviews on this site (which I find very depressing), nevermind reading about a band they most likely don't care about, no matter how well written.
Exactly. Like I said before, serious effort has to be put in to making Music That Rocks interesting. Now, finding a person that has the time, patience, and writing skills to do that is where the problem lies.
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...but it's hard enough to get people to contribute two or three paragraph Three Stooges reviews on this site (which I find very depressing), nevermind being open minded enough to read about a band they most likely don't care about, no matter how well written.
BTW, I saw your request asking me to write a review on "Self Made Maids." Even though it may be just two to three paragraphs, I really need to put a lot of thought into it, like you just said before. I'd rather write no review than a crappy one. Therefore, I will need some time to come up with a good review, not to mention the little time I have. I work full time and take classes on the weekends right now. I have to really think and analyze a stooge episode and thoroughly explain the good and bad stuff about it to justify my overall rating. Anyways, if I manage to find some time over the next few weeks to gather my thoughts, I'll see if I can write a review.
I'm sure there are many (and I do mean MANY) other members here with great writing skills and people that have the ability and time to write a excellent reviews. I encourage others to contribute as well. In my busy time, I've written transcripts for several stooge shorts (which, I'm pretty certain, very few people even read), I've participated in the debates, spent time providing screenshots for the DVDs, etc. I can only contribute to so much, so I'm sure there are other people here who can contribute something to this site. It disturbs and worries me that many people here, who are very bright and smart, didn't want to participate in the debates before and are now afraid to step and write a review.
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Personally, I don't think that a "Music That Rocks" board would work all that well. What makes the Music That Sucks board so good is Jim's biting humor and colorful turn of phrase (to put it mildly.) For me it's not so much what Jim hates as the way he expresses his disdain for the subject of his review. You just can't get the same effect with a positive review. ;)
Exactly, and that is the reason why I never started a "Music That Rocks" counterpart to MTS. I knew right away that a "MTR" would pale in comparison to MTS and perhaps even hurt MTS in a way.
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I guess it's ok if you don't think it'll work. I just thought Metaldams and Archiezappa had a pretty good idea there. Like I said, it "can" work if serious work is put into making it interesting. It doesn't exactly have to contain "biting humor" or whatever else MTS had. There are other ways to make it interesting. It was a good idea, while it lasted. Just my two cents.
A Music That Rocks board or thread would be doomed from the start because it would be automatically be compared to MTS.
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Well, it was just a thought. No big deal.
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I hate to admit that Metaldams has a good point. While a MTR thread could work, it probably won't. This is a Three Stooges site and we were unable to get people to debate about stooge-related topics nor were we able to get people to actively post episode reviews. So, I highly doubt we'll get enough people interested in writing about music they like.
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I hate to admit that Metaldams has a good point.
You're starting to sound like my ex-girlfriend. ;D
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Nahhhh. Just keep MTS. It's fun this way.....there should be an entire section devoted to crappy Canadian music (Loverboy, Celine Dion, Shania Twain) and all will be right in the world.
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Nahhhh. Just keep MTS. It's fun this way.....there should be an entire section devoted to crappy Canadian music (Loverboy, Celine Dion, Shania Twain) and all will be right in the world.
Y'know, I don't care about her music, but Shania Twain was/is an amzingly beautiful woman. I had no clue she was Canadian. Doesn't she sing "country?"
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Y'know, I don't care about her music, but Shania Twain was/is an amzingly beautiful woman. I had no clue she was Canadian. Doesn't she sing "country?"
I don't really get that either, metal. How can you be Canadian and sing country?
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I don't really get that either, metal. How can you be Canadian and sing country?
What about Jewish people making christmas records? :laugh:
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..Well, 'cept for Joe, anyway.
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What about Jewish people making christmas records? :laugh:
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..Well, 'cept for Joe, anyway.
No doubt the influence of "Gentile" Joe Derita. ;D
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I don't really get that either, metal. How can you be Canadian and sing country?
I'm not really a country music fan, but at one time it was a legitimate genre. These days it's homogenized pop just like all other forms of mainstream music. Hence a Canadian singing "country."
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What about Jewish people making christmas records? :laugh:
..Well, 'cept for Joe, anyway.
Lol, I forgot about that. Ah, Joe, the lone Gentile. ...Ever heard Barbra Streisand's version of 'Jingle Bells'? *shudders*
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Lol, I forgot about that. Ah, Joe, the lone Gentile. ...Ever heard Barbra Streisand's version of 'Jingle Bells'? *shudders*
Well, YEAH, of course it's Joe's doing! Notice the way he's dragging Moe and Larry along on the sleigh? That's more symbolic than Paul not wearing shoes on the cover of ABBEY ROAD.
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I'm not really a country music fan, but at one time it was a legitimate genre. These days it's homogenized pop just like all other forms of mainstream music. Hence a Canadian singing "country."
Agreed. I like Willie, Waylon and the boys. But the stuff that has come out in the last 20 + years (Brooks & Dung, Shania Twain, Garth Brooks) is not country. Just crap. That is all. And Gretchen Wilson? YUUUUCKK!! Man, oh man, I am not a huge country fan by any stretch, but the stuff I listened to in the 70s at least qualified as music. No, you are better off sticking with Iron Maiden and Motorhead for musical integrity. Don't question it!!!
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There's this one Oingo Boingo song.... :-[
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This doesn't involve a sucky artist, but here's an admission for you: I am a great admirer of "Revolution 9."
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There's this one Oingo Boingo song.... :-[
Are you referring to "Dead Man's Party"? That's a terrific song, I see no reason to call that one a guilty pleasure.
The song that comes to my mind is "Jesse's Girl" by Rick Springfield. An obvious pop song written for radio play & sung by some manufactured soap opera actor, but nevertheless, I love the song anyway.
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I like country music, but what I call country is now referred to as bluegrass. Waylon, Willie, Johnny Cash are among my favorites. I also like Grandpa Jones. He combined bluegrass music with comedy. The show "Hee Haw" really had a lot of that sort of thing: Good country/bluegrass music and corny comedy.
I'm still confused about that whole Jewish Christmas thing, though. Weird!
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I don't like any Music That Sucks. The principle is very simple: if I like it, it automatically doesn't suck.
As for those Jewish Christmas albums, I'll buy the Streisand and Dylan albums just as soon as Pat Boone releases a Hanukkah album, and not a moment sooner!
[wink]
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I don't like any Music That Sucks. The principle is very simple: if I like it, it automatically doesn't suck.
As I like to say, there's a lot of bad music that I like, and a lot of great music that I don't like.
(That would make sense to anyone who understands my musical interests, even allowing for the "quality is in the ear of the beholder" principle.)
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I like that. "Quality is in the ear of the beholder."
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mine would be Elton John but for some reason I do listen to some songs
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I'm still confused about that whole Jewish Christmas thing, though. Weird!
I've come across at least a couple of Christmas albums made by people who were avowed atheists. Really, why did they bother?
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Dylan converted to Christianity back in the 70's and a couple of his albums from that time are full of Jesus-Freakery.
There is one reason I can think of an atheist coming out with a Christmas Album: money. I'm curious as to who these atheists were and if the songs they performed were Christian or secular.
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Dylan converted to Christianity back in the 70's and a couple of his albums from that time are full of Jesus-Freakery.
There is one reason I can think of an atheist coming out with a Christmas Album: money. I'm curious as to who these atheists were and if the songs they performed were Christian or secular.
I've only heard one Dylan song from his Christian period, "Gotta Serve Somebody," and I have to say, I think it's quite good. I'm not usually a fan of Christian rock, but that has more to do with the performers than any beliefs in the lyrics. I don't care if you write a Christian lyric (I like Neal Morse), a Satanic lyric (I like Slayer and Mercyful Fate), whatever, as long as the music is good, it's fine with me. Dylan going Christian is just a small phase in an ever changing career, and it makes Dylan that much more interesting to me.
I did get to hear Dylan's Christmas album this past December, and I thought of it as a fun novelty, but not something I'd listen to often. Dylan's just going to do whatever he wants anyway, he's always been like that.
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There is one reason I can think of an atheist coming out with a Christmas Album: money. I'm curious as to who these atheists were and if the songs they performed were Christian or secular.
Well, one you can check into is Jethro Tull's Christmas album. Ian Anderson's beliefs are well-known.
Another one I heard once was made by various artists who were not famous at the time. (One became famous later, while another was someone I knew personally.) While I can't speak for the beliefs of the people involved (besides the guy I knew), the choice of songs was very conspicuously non-religious without even resorting to a lot of "Santa" songs. The only somewhat "religious" song on the disc was performed as an instrumental.
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Green Day, I guess. They're like my guilty pleasure.
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Personally, I don't think that a "Music That Rocks" board would work all that well. What makes the Music That Sucks board so good is Jim's biting humor and colorful turn of phrase (to put it mildly.) For me it's not so much what Jim hates as the way he expresses his disdain for the subject of his review. You just can't get the same effect with a positive review. ;)
WORD. And I have it from RELIABLE SOURCES that a brand-spanking new inductee into MTS is right around the corner. I just hope the wait is not too long. This might be my favorite thread ANYWHERE on the almight 'net. Besides the hilarious writing, I am amazed to find someone who is 99% correct in his musical judgement...with me holding in at a cool 100%. Think about it.