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Title: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: BeAStooge on December 20, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Mill Creek Entertainment will release a 2-DVD set "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set (http://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Collection-6-Movie-Set/dp/B00HFWETIK/)" on February 4.  Included are two features with Curly Howard, and four with Joe DeRita.  It's up for pre-order at Amazon and other online retailers.

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Sony recently began a licensing agreement with Mill Creek, primarily focused on the TV-on-DVD product line.  Apparently, they are expanding the marketing strategy to include titles from their film library as well.

From Mill Creek's press release...
Quote
THE THREE STOOGES COLLECTION – 6 MOVIE SET
Nuyk, Nuyk, Nuyk! Calling all nitwits and knuckleheads!


Moe, Curly, Larry and Curly Joe all their slap happy antics are back and at their boisterous best in this 2 DVD comedy collection. From first feature length film, Have Rocket, Will Travel, to the song studded musical, Time Out for Rhythm, this collection of 6 mapcap classics is sure to leave a smile on your face and a bump on the back of your noggin!

Have Rocket, Will Travel (1959)
When the Stooges accidently blast off to Venus, they encounter an alien computer who creates evil duplicates of them.

The Outlaws Is Coming (1965)
Larry, Moe, and Curly Joe are sent out west, upon their arrival they find themselves being sought after by every gunslinger in history.

Rockin' in the Rockies (1945)
After they accidentally win big at roulette, the Stooges cook up prospecting plans at a local ranch.

Three Stooges Go Around The World In A Daze (1963)
The Stooges set sail for a globe-hopping trip, after being enlisted by a con man that needs to win a bet.

The Three Stooges Meet Hercules (1962)
Comical chaos ensues when the trio flicks the switch of a time-machine that transports them to ancient Greece.

Time Out for Rhythm (1941)
Musical hilarity ensues when three out-of-work-actors, Moe, Larry and Curly, find jobs through a talent agency.

Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: falsealarms on December 20, 2013, 03:35:31 PM
The big draw here is a pressed version of TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM, which was only previously available as a Sony MOD disc (for twice the cost of this 6 film set).

That alone makes this new set worth a buy.

Hopefully, this set utilizes the same print used for the Sony MOD.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on December 20, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
I'm sold!

But no love for 'Three Stooges In Orbit'?

I'd still like to see a proper DVD release of 'Start Cheering' in the near future as well.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on December 21, 2013, 11:49:42 PM
I'm betting the pictures have logos burnt in at some point. Just a guess and only time will tell..
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on December 23, 2013, 12:19:05 PM
Mill Creek's quality isn't that great. I'd be surprised if these look better than the ones released by Sony....
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Final Shemp on December 25, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Kind of sad it took Mill Creek to release a collection like this.  The good news is that their discs are always cheap.  The bad news is that their quality varies.  I hope for the best on this release though, since Sony should have done a movie collection a long time ago.

Of course the notable omission is Orbit.  That's really odd.  Stop, Look, and Laugh is also in the Sony library though it has been released, and Start Cheering could use a release too.  Wonder if they might plan on a volume 2 with those titles and the cameoed Captain Hates the Sea and My Sister Eileen.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: locoboymakesgood on December 28, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
I'm surprised The Three Stooges in Orbit isn't included, either, particularly since it's out of print.

I'll be picking this up for Time Out for Rhythm alone. I have all of the others.

archiezappa must be doing a dance.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: falsealarms on February 06, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
Everything looks good with this set.

Good packaging, and a great price. TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM appears to be the remastered version used for the Sony MOD in 2012. Everything else looks as expected.

The set is well worth it just for TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM. Amazon third parties are selling it new for under $4 at the moment.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 07, 2014, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: falsealarms on February 06, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
Good packaging, and a great price.

Very surprised to hear that. Based on past experiences, Mill Creek usually stacks discs or puts them in sleeves; never in hubs. I'm even more encouraged now to pick this one up just to get Time Out For Rhythm.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: falsealarms on February 07, 2014, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on February 07, 2014, 12:22:59 PM
Very surprised to hear that. Based on past experiences, Mill Creek usually stacks discs or puts them in sleeves; never in hubs. I'm even more encouraged now to pick this one up just to get Time Out For Rhythm.

When you open the case, there's one hub on each side of the inner case. Pretty ideal.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 07, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
Sony MOD dvd:
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2FTime_Out_For_Rhythm-3.jpg&hash=5eabfd876c38b69cb70c5be1f745629dabc408d5) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/Time_Out_For_Rhythm-3.jpg)		Mill Creek dvd:
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdvd_snapshot_004739_20140207_163911_zpse627d162.jpg&hash=ff8c9dd31bc8f82fc6a8f5cd4f7106158a6c5514) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dvd_snapshot_004739_20140207_163911_zpse627d162.jpg)

Not a huge difference, but there is a slight change in the image between sets. I can say that I haven't seen any on-screen logos! I was sure they'd be a Mill Creek logo bug somewhere in the corner but, there's no logo anywhere! So.. Yayyy!!* for no logo!!!


*Spell check suggests that "yayyy" be spelled "khayyam". I disagree.

Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on February 07, 2014, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on February 07, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
I can say that I haven't seen any on-screen logos! I was sure they'd be a Mill Creek logo bug somewhere in the corner but, there's no logo anywhere! So.. Yayyy!!* for no logo!!!

Yayyy!!

I'll be picking up my copy tomorrow!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: luke795 on February 08, 2014, 01:59:13 AM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on February 07, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
Sony MOD dvd:
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2FTime_Out_For_Rhythm-3.jpg&hash=5eabfd876c38b69cb70c5be1f745629dabc408d5) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/Time_Out_For_Rhythm-3.jpg)		Mill Creek dvd:
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdvd_snapshot_004739_20140207_163911_zpse627d162.jpg&hash=ff8c9dd31bc8f82fc6a8f5cd4f7106158a6c5514) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dvd_snapshot_004739_20140207_163911_zpse627d162.jpg)

Not a huge difference, but there is a slight change in the image between sets. I can say that I haven't seen any on-screen logos! I was sure they'd be a Mill Creek logo bug somewhere in the corner but, there's no logo anywhere! So.. Yayyy!!* for no logo!!!


*Spell check suggests that "yayyy" be spelled "khayyam". I disagree.


How do the other Three Stooges movies compare to the original DVDs?
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 08, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
Actually, we have something interesting going on, here. The widescreen features on disc 1 seem to have more picture image visible than the original discs, where the full frame Rockies seems a teensy, shmeensy bit cropped.

Which versions are better? Mill Creek's Have Rocket has the advantage over the Treasures set, with more image visible and more (apparent) detail. Look at Moe's hair in the capture below. Edge enhancement or sharpening can't add image detail.

Sony's original Outlaws has more grain and an overall sharper image with better contrast.

Rockies is pretty comparable between the two, although the Mill Creek has less grain, a digitally smoothed image, and that little bit of cropping.

I had originally suspected these discs would be made like the pd sets, where a source dvd was copied or otherwise re-encoded, adding picture and sound degradation. Happily, it looks like we got a new dvd mastering from the original files, albeit with minor pluses and minuses that are par for the course with video reissues.

Rocket Treasures disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fd3.jpg&hash=da0a3c23a7a8c0e146c2c70adbe2de353ed93a5f) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/d3.jpg)		Rocket Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frocketmillcreeka_zpsed056b22.jpg&hash=2e245aca4b53423a7121b718bc7f9ed168128a5b) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rocketmillcreeka_zpsed056b22.jpg)

Outlaws Original disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Foutlawsorig2_zps8b2ecdc1.jpg&hash=3ed8c45d5db0ca39efa06ce6723cf6c3818ba321) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/outlawsorig2_zps8b2ecdc1.jpg)		Outlaws Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Foutlawsmillcreek_zpsb669cdf0.jpg&hash=c0243e704bf2ce5da48b2afa688669f22f240199) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/outlawsmillcreek_zpsb669cdf0.jpg)

Rockies Treasures disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frockiestreasuresdisc_zps41c9e7ab.jpg&hash=2ff4d2c8ebd9b291dcfe6f0f271a191e9930286b) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rockiestreasuresdisc_zps41c9e7ab.jpg)		Rockies Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frockiesmillcreek_zpsd94a6fde.jpg&hash=07f3dbad8eacee6bc540de44453c5bd7b9fb8922) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rockiesmillcreek_zpsd94a6fde.jpg)
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on February 08, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on February 08, 2014, 03:56:14 PM
Actually, we have something interesting going on, here. The widescreen features on disc 1 seem to have more picture image visible than the original discs, where the full frame Rockies seems a teensy, shmeensy bit cropped.

Which versions are better? Mill Creek's Have Rocket has the advantage over the Treasures set, with more image visible and more (apparent) detail. Look at Moe's hair in the capture below. Edge enhancement or sharpening can't add image detail.

Sony's original Outlaws has more grain and an overall sharper image with better contrast.

Rockies is pretty comparable between the two, although the Mill Creek has less grain, a digitally smoothed image, and that little bit of cropping.

I had originally suspected these discs would be made like the pd sets, where a source dvd was copied or otherwise re-encoded, adding picture and sound degradation. Happily, it looks like we got a new dvd mastering from the original files, albeit with minor pluses and minuses that are par for the course with video reissues.

Rocket Treasures disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fd3.jpg&hash=da0a3c23a7a8c0e146c2c70adbe2de353ed93a5f) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/d3.jpg)		Rocket Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frocketmillcreeka_zpsed056b22.jpg&hash=2e245aca4b53423a7121b718bc7f9ed168128a5b) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rocketmillcreeka_zpsed056b22.jpg)

Outlaws Original disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Foutlawsorig2_zps8b2ecdc1.jpg&hash=3ed8c45d5db0ca39efa06ce6723cf6c3818ba321) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/outlawsorig2_zps8b2ecdc1.jpg)		Outlaws Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Foutlawsmillcreek_zpsb669cdf0.jpg&hash=c0243e704bf2ce5da48b2afa688669f22f240199) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/outlawsmillcreek_zpsb669cdf0.jpg)

Rockies Treasures disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frockiestreasuresdisc_zps41c9e7ab.jpg&hash=2ff4d2c8ebd9b291dcfe6f0f271a191e9930286b) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rockiestreasuresdisc_zps41c9e7ab.jpg)		Rockies Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frockiesmillcreek_zpsd94a6fde.jpg&hash=07f3dbad8eacee6bc540de44453c5bd7b9fb8922) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rockiesmillcreek_zpsd94a6fde.jpg)

How did 'Meet Hercules' and 'Around The World In A Daze' look?
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 09, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
Around the World in a Daze just doesn't look great on either disc. The image is overly soft and while the Mill Crick version seems to have more fine detail, there is more evidence of mpeg compression in the image. I'd guess it comes down to bit rate and cramming one too many pictures on one dvd. Suffice to say, my 16mm print is razor sharp with scads more detail than what is presented in either dvd. (You can really see the railway satchels under Moe's eyes on the film!) They're not horrible discs, they look better in motion! But they're not what they could be.

The Sony disc of Hercules looks just fine to me, even though it does have that windowboxed look when you see the whole picture. There is grain present, and it makes for an overall sharp and well contrasted/saturated image. The Creek disc has the grain squashed more, which makes the picture a bit softer. Not bad for either one, and the Creek disc does, again, have more picture area showing.

For Rhythm, the MOD disc is the clear winner. The images are almost identical for both, but this time the Mill Creek has less image, which seems consistent with the previous full screen entry, Rockin' in Some Rockies. Grain is present in both copies, but softened a little for the Mill Creek. Once again, I think this comes down to compression more than digital scrubbing, as these Mill Creek discs have, overall, less space available for each film.

While getting these screen grabs I did notice that the locations of the various frames in the run time were off by seconds, sometimes nearly a minute between discs. Without running each video file side by side for a comparison I can't say if there's any footage missing in either copy, or if it's just a matter of black space at the head of each video file, minute speed differences or whatever. Sometimes when mastering films for video like this the techs redo fades, trim out noisy frames or make adjustments for sych and junk. (Remember, stuff like that happened with the Stooge shorts sets!) Never can tell, but I'd bet nothing is missing. Just something I noticed, though.

Daze Sony disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdazesony4943_zps9bc480e2.jpg&hash=a6ea806dc77ff9fde99ae19800b043719321403f) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dazesony4943_zps9bc480e2.jpg)		Daze Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdazemc4939_zps53e4d019.jpg&hash=0d9998ba305adcd500df323a7b64416305af6004) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dazemc4939_zps53e4d019.jpg)

Hercules Sony disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fhercsony5031_zps2fb6c5b2.jpg&hash=588787c253c2a7e53695a46ea68f26ef03e6bc29) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/hercsony5031_zps2fb6c5b2.jpg)		Hercules Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fhercmc5030_zps037d8e2f.jpg&hash=a4118590e09c2f47b7991bd04e1ef15a51d5e32c) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/hercmc5030_zps037d8e2f.jpg)

Rhythm MOD disc
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frhythmmod1049_zps336b0e2e.jpg&hash=9472a84f3e8b4ac8a72f9b68949bea2ac0f43408) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rhythmmod1049_zps336b0e2e.jpg)		Rhythm Mill Creek
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Frhythmmc1049_zpsf9f11e3a.jpg&hash=ed15f5e948ffda27bb187d01f833ba0615037bb6) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/rhythmmc1049_zpsf9f11e3a.jpg)
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 10, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: locoboymakesgood on December 28, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
I'm surprised The Three Stooges in Orbit isn't included, either, particularly since it's out of print.

I don't think it's out of print. Still plenty in stock at Amazon....
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Orbit-Larry-Fine/dp/B0000DBJ29/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392056691&sr=8-1&keywords=three+stooges+in+orbit
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 10, 2014, 07:42:36 PM
For the morbidly curious, I found a glitch in Daze that is not present in the Sony original release. Around the 1 hr 28min mark the picture goes all hinky for a second or two:
Daze glitch 1
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdazeglitch1_zps8464353d.jpg&hash=7f250f0c8550aaf0026b0d8c5935215105200ea9) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dazeglitch1_zps8464353d.jpg)		Daze glitch 2
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdazeglitch2_zps961cf6f3.jpg&hash=556822fa34ccffe79b1444b79eec93552eae5d2f) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dazeglitch2_zps961cf6f3.jpg)

Remember, the morbid the merrier!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 11, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on February 10, 2014, 07:42:36 PM
For the morbidly curious, I found a glitch in Daze that is not present in the Sony original release. Around the 1 hr 28min mark the picture goes all hinky for a second or two:

I have a similar problem with another, non-stooge Mill Creek DVD. Evidently, something is wrong with their quality control... which explains why their retail prices are so cheap.

If you find more glitches, especially on TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM, please continue to post and let us know. Thx.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 13, 2014, 10:17:51 AM
What stores did all of you buy this at? I've been to every store in town and can't find this in stock. This is so frustrating....
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 13, 2014, 10:22:15 AM
I had mine preordered on Amazon. I gave up on the local b&m's a long time ago. I did see, though, that the nearby Barnes and Noble had one the shelf.. for more than twice the price of Amazon! $29.95! What a deal!!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 13, 2014, 12:15:23 PM
I went to BN and the one I went to didn't have any. And the $30 price tag must've been a mistake. BN charges retail price, not more.

I gave up on Amazon ever since they raised the free shipping requirement to $35. They can kiss my rear end on that. Sorry to sound nasty; it's just how I feel about it.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on February 13, 2014, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on February 13, 2014, 12:15:23 PM
.. the $30 price tag must've been a mistake. BN charges retail price, not more.

Not here. If a tv series set is reg $19.99-29.99, it would be $39.99-49.99 in store. That's why I quit going there for dvds. I thought the place was neat when it first came here, but their prices are all over the place.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: JazzBill on February 13, 2014, 06:55:41 PM
I ordered on Amazon. Cost $3.64, add on tax, shipping and handling it came to $8.11. I can live with that.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 14, 2014, 12:09:24 PM
When was this $3.64?
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: JazzBill on February 14, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on February 14, 2014, 12:09:24 PM
When was this $3.64?

I just checked it, it's down to $3.50. When you go to  Amazon for Three Stooges 6 Movie Set look down to bottom left and it says 13 new starting at $3.50 .Click there.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Final Shemp on February 15, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on February 07, 2014, 12:22:59 PM
Very surprised to hear that. Based on past experiences, Mill Creek usually stacks discs or puts them in sleeves; never in hubs. I'm even more encouraged now to pick this one up just to get Time Out For Rhythm.

Mill Creek's quality has improved greatly over the past few years.  In the past few months I've picked up a couple of their more recent releases and they are a great deal better than what they used to put out.  Most recently I picked up their releases of the first two seasons of Bewitched (since Sony's complete series set contains the colorized versions only) and didn't expect much from something that featured 12 episodes per disc, but I was shocked that the image quality is actually pretty good, if compressed.

The blu-rays I've seen them released are pretty quality as well.  Their Gamera and Daimajin sets are to die for for the price they're offering.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on February 18, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: Final Shemp on February 15, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Most recently I picked up their releases of the first two seasons of Bewitched (since Sony's complete series set contains the colorized versions only) and didn't expect much from something that featured 12 episodes per disc, but I was shocked that the image quality is actually pretty good, if compressed.

That was the non-stooge DVD I was referring to earlier. I'm guess you didn't watch Episode 1? There is a noticeable glitch in that episode during the dinner scene.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on February 21, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
Having read this most valuable feedback regarding THE THREE STOOGES - 6 MOVIE COLLECTION, I now greatly look forward to finally receiving this 2 DVD Set, hopefully sometime soon!  That the differences between the Original and Millcreek releases of each Title are marginal is something that I can live with, even with having paid extra for shipping to get this from U.S. Amazon, as the Amazon in my native Canada for some reason ended up pushing its release date back a month!

CHEERS!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 03, 2014, 07:05:38 PM
My Three Stooges 6 Movie Set finally arrived today!

Unfortunately, Disc 1 is scratched up pretty badly, as it had been rattling loose in its DVD Case!  Despite this, it passed my initial PC Test, in that I was able to play every title from the beginning, and scroll right to the end of each without the telltale freezing up that normally occurs when there are playback issues.  Though the other DVD is scratch free, I also checked its three titles just to be safe!

Hopefully, complete playback on our Blu-Ray Player doesn't prove to be a different story, as the headache/cost associated with returning Amazon International Orders would likely not be worth it in this case!

At least I already have two out of the three "Stooges" Disc 1 Features via their "Rare Treasures From The Columbia Vault" Set as part of THE THREE STOOGES:  THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION 20 DVD Set.

CHEERS!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on March 04, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
I finally found a store last week that carried it and bought it. I'm a bit upset at the quality control here. On the other hand, how much quality control can be put in here if it only cost $10 for a six movie set? Well... this set it littered with glitches.

Have Rocket Will Travel is the only movie so far that I've watched that is glitch free. I haven't watched Daze yet, but I went to the part that Thump referenced and did see that picture jump. There is a very very brief picture glitch in Rhythm during the opening credits. There is also a couple of quick glitches in Rockies. I didn't watch Outlaws yet, but did a quick glance. I notice that the video motion is choppy. Looks like it was poorly ripped from the Sony DVD or whatever DVD they ripped it from.

Still have yet to watch Hercules, but will let you know if I see anything there. You know what they say... you get what you pay for. And with this set, indeed you do!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 04, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on March 04, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
I finally found a store last week that carried it and bought it. I'm a bit upset at the quality control here. On the other hand, how much quality control can be put in here if it only cost $10 for a six movie set? Well... this set it littered with glitches.

Have Rocket Will Travel is the only movie so far that I've watched that is glitch free. I haven't watched Daze yet, but I went to the part that Thump referenced and did see that picture jump. There is a very very brief picture glitch in Rhythm during the opening credits. There is also a couple of quick glitches in Rockies. I didn't watch Outlaws yet, but did a quick glance. I notice that the video motion is choppy. Looks like it was poorly ripped from the Sony DVD or whatever DVD they ripped it from.

Still have yet to watch Hercules, but will let you know if I see anything there. You know what they say... you get what you pay for. And with this set, indeed you do!
Hi Larrys#1!

I haven't properly viewed these on my copy as yet.  Apart from the possibly choppy THE OUTLAWS IS COMING, the other glitches, while obviously annoying, doesn't sound too horrible provided they are brief and isolated, as these seem to be, based on your reported observations.  Three DVD's, rather than two, would have been more ideal.  My annoying "Disc Rattle" experience would also most likely not have occurred with the extra disc inside!

Personally, I'm not too worried about ROCKIN' IN THE ROCKIES or HAVE ROCKET, WILL TRAVEL as I already have these as part of THE THREE STOOGES: THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION, though others that don't will understandably be!

CHEERS!

Tony

                                                                       *********************UPDATE*********************

I just finished viewing THE OUTLAWS IS COMING, and I don't know whether it's just because my disc is badly scratched, but there were several brief instances of Green Screen from about the 45 minute mark of the Film (When Kenneth Cabot meets Annie Oakley.), which I Screen Captured .  This also occurs just before the 56 minute mark just as Curly Joe & Larry enter a closet, and again at about 1:26:46, during the Post Wedding Bit. There was also one brief instance of artifacting at about 52:40 when Moe enters the Bedroom.  Regarding the choppy Video, this seemed more noticeable to me during the action scenes.  If anyone else can confirm having these same issues, I'll try to post the appropriate Screenshots!

Hopefully, THE OUTLAWS IS COMING is the worst of it!

Note:  I've edited my update as I've found that in some cases, the times on my PC based Media Player Center and Blu-Ray Player varied a bit.  My observation is this is caused either because of my disc being badly scratched, or the DVD was glitchy to begin with!  At this point, the latter scenario seems to be more likely.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on March 05, 2014, 11:37:14 AM
Hi Tony....

When I get home, I will check my Outlaws copy and get back to you. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a video glitch and not a disc issue.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on March 05, 2014, 11:37:14 AM
Hi Tony....

When I get home, I will check my Outlaws copy and get back to you. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a video glitch and not a disc issue.
Hi Larry!

Thanks Larry!  I appreciate your effort in this! 

I edited my above post as some of the times displayed on my PC based Media Player Center and Blu-Ray Player varied by a few seconds.  If the screen briefly went black instead of that annoying green, this defect wouldn't be so glaring!  As it is, this sticks out like a sore thumb!

Have you by chance, viewed these on a regular DVD/Blu-Ray Player, or did you play these on a PC, as I have?  It's just a thought, but perhaps the video for "Outlaws" might play more smoothly in a non PC setup?

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on March 05, 2014, 12:53:26 PM
I tried both standalone player and PC. Both are choppy. The choppy video is actually due to a frame rate issue and can happen when a video is re-encoded improperly. A film's frame rate is 24 fps and gets converted to 60 fps when transferred to DVD. This results is a slight judder in the motion. This is why soap operas look very smooth in motion compared to movies; it's because they were recorded on video at 60 fps. There was no 24 to 60 fps conversion.

Well, what I suspect happened was that on the Sony DVD, they properly transferred the film to DVD and did the normal 24 to 60 fps conversion. So, no choppy video on the Sony DVD. Then Mill Creek came along and decided to rip the video from the DVD and re-encode it. This resulted in a double conversion, i.e. 24 to 60 to 24 to 60 fps conversion. They ripped the video and when it was re-encoded, it was converted back to 24 fps and then converted to 60 fps again. Thus, you have a double judder effect, resulting in a choppy video now.

Mill Creek isn't very swift. Softwares like DVDShrink will easily rip the video and change the compression without a full re-encode. I use the software all the time to backup some of my DVDs and the videos turn out great.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on March 05, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Bensley on March 04, 2014, 03:36:30 PM
I just finished viewing THE OUTLAWS IS COMING, and I don't know whether it's just because my disc is badly scratched, but there were several brief instances of Green Screen from about the 45 minute mark of the Film (When Kenneth Cabot meets Annie Oakley.), which I Screen Captured .  This also occurs just before the 56 minute mark just as Curly Joe & Larry enter a closet, and again at about 1:26:46, during the Post Wedding Bit. There was also one brief instance of artifacting at about 52:40 when Moe enters the Bedroom.  Regarding the choppy Video, this seemed more noticeable to me during the action scenes.  If anyone else can confirm having these same issues, I'll try to post the appropriate Screenshots!

Moe got a chem-light?!
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdvd_snapshot_005243_20140305_135857_zps84547f78.jpg&hash=9cf0fd93da4dce85a92db996f3ff411ce742f894) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dvd_snapshot_005243_20140305_135857_zps84547f78.jpg)

Confirmed here. The green flashes and pixellation are encoded in the picture, are rather pretty, but have no place in a Stooge picture!  [pie]

Not sure what happened with the encoding of Outlaws. The image cadence is off, almost-but-not-quite like video processed with the field order reversed. What it looks like is a low bitrate dvr recording, kinda like what we used to see on the old Stooges bootleg discs. Gives the image a slow-motion feel to it.

Anyone find any more problems? I haven't watched Rhythm, Rockies or Rocket so I don't know if those are affected.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on March 05, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
Moe got a chem-light?!
(https://threestooges.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv292%2Fslambender%2Fdvd_snapshot_005243_20140305_135857_zps84547f78.jpg&hash=9cf0fd93da4dce85a92db996f3ff411ce742f894) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/slambender/dvd_snapshot_005243_20140305_135857_zps84547f78.jpg)

Confirmed here. The green flashes and pixellation are encoded in the picture, are rather pretty, but have no place in a Stooge picture!  [pie]

Not sure what happened with the encoding of Outlaws. The image cadence is off, almost-but-not-quite like video processed with the field order reversed. What it looks like is a low bitrate dvr recording, kinda like what we used to see on the old Stooges bootleg discs. Gives the image a slow-motion feel to it.

Anyone find any more problems? I haven't watched Rhythm, Rockies or Rocket so I don't know if those are affected.
Yup!  That "Pretty" bit of pixellation is in the exact same spot on mine as well!

Did you also happen to notice the Green Screen Frames that I mentioned in an above post?  I'd post these myself, except Photobucket has to be used for this purpose, and for some reason, this doesn't work for me!  Believe me, I've followed others helpful instructions on other Forums.  Even using a different PC doesn't seem to help.  I seem to run into this whenever I have to copy and paste from a login based website, as I've had success on open sites!  I do find this incredibly frustrating, but that is a whole other topic!

CHEERS!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on March 05, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
What a mess! I'll check my copy as well tonight, but it looks to me like I was correct. It's a video issue, not a disc problem.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: Larrys#1 on March 05, 2014, 05:50:40 PM
What a mess! I'll check my copy as well tonight, but it looks to me like I was correct. It's a video issue, not a disc problem.
Hi Larry!

It unfortunately, appears to be just that.  The bugger of it for me is that I paid just about as much for the shipping as for the 2 DVD Set itself! 

In hindsight, when the Canadian Amazon release was delayed a month, I should of just waited it out as I could have used the extra I paid for shipping toward the Sony "Outlaws" DVD, which appears to have suffered the worst (I Hope!) of the bunch on the Millcreek Set!

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on March 05, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
Did you also happen to notice the Green Screen Frames that I mentioned in an above post?

The full screen green flashes are there, too. Reminds me of the old days of using a video card called the TV Wonder to try to digitize vhs and cable. That thing would drop frames and go to blue screen for absolutely no reason at all. Well, the Macrovision didn't help it either!

But that was 10 years ago! We've got BluRay, now. Hi-def pixellation and encryption keys rule!!   [pie]
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on March 05, 2014, 06:04:12 PM
The full screen green flashes are there, too. Reminds me of the old days of using a video card called the TV Wonder to try to digitize vhs and cable. That thing would drop frames and go to blue screen for absolutely no reason at all. Well, the Macrovision didn't help it either!

But that was 10 years ago! We've got BluRay, now. Hi-def pixellation and encryption keys rule!!   [pie]
While I expected there might be some minor issues regarding the compromised bit-rate, there is simply NO excuse for the Green Screen and choppy Video issues that plague THE OUTLAWS IS COMING!

Regarding TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM, though I've seen less than 10 minutes of this so far, I've noticed an additional glitch (Besides the previously reported one that occurs during the Opening Credits.) that occurs a little over 4 minutes in when Rudy Vallee begins singing at a Piano, which lasts approximately two tenths of a second.

This Millcreek Entertainment Set is appearing more and more to be a dud!  When I'm spending more time looking for and reporting glitches than actually enjoying the Films, I know that something's seriously amiss!

Do yourself a favor and buy the individual Three Stooges Features, if you can!  It appears that Millcreek really dropped the ball on this one!

AARRGGHH!!!!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 05, 2014, 11:12:11 PM
I just finished viewing THE THREE STOOGES MET HERCULES.  What a hoot!  This was the one latter day Three Stooges Feature that I had never really seen, and I can see why this one is a favorite among "Stooges" fans from the 60's in particular!  My older Step Brother loved this one, though I had only caught bits of it once when he was suffering from the cancer that sadly took him from us much too soon!  To Gary, I can now say that "I wholeheartedly agree, though you were wrong about Hercules being portrayed by Muscleman Steve Reeves.  Hercules was played by Canadian Wrestler Samson Burke, who used to wrestle under the names Sammy Berg and Mr. Canada in the 50's, so you may actually remember him that way."  As a Canadian living in the U.S, I think Gary would have like that!

Anyway, I'm getting a bit off topic!

From what I could tell, THE THREE STOOGES MEET HERCULES is also thankfully Glitch free!  Based on previous posts, HAVE ROCKET, WILL TRAVEL is the only other Feature on the Three Stooges Millcreek 6 Movie Set to bear this distinction.  This makes 2 out of 6 or 33% of the Features.  Not a great success rate!

Having now also viewed TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM in its entirety, I have no further Glitches to report other than the two that occur within the Film's first 4 and a half minutes that were noted in prior posts.

While I personally still have three Features left to view, it is quite apparent that THE OUTLAWS IS COMING has fared by far the worst of the 6 Three Stooges Features!

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 10, 2014, 05:06:20 PM
See my review of this set on Amazon:  http://www.amazon.com/review/R1U18RPTANYVT0

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I think 'dropped the ball' is a pretty harsh judgment of this release. A few glitches here and there sure but they don't take away from the viewing. If you blink, you miss them.

I have the individual releases but saw a few from this set recently at a friends house and it didn't ruin my viewing experience. These glitches don't really matter. I think we get so spoiled as consumers that we're quick to jump on any little abnormality. I come from the day of recording beat up and edited prints off of television so I am perhaps a little more forgiving of these things.

The real question here is why didn't Columbia release these as a companion set to their 'ultimate collection' and instead farm it out to someone else? We're still missing a (re)release of Stop Look and Laugh and The Three Stooges in Orbit. It would have made a nice 5 disc collection from Columbia with a 6th devoted to trailers, the Screen Snapshots they appeared in, and other odds and ends.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 13, 2014, 01:14:04 AM
Quote from: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I think 'dropped the ball' is a pretty harsh judgment of this release. A few glitches here and there sure but they don't take away from the viewing. If you blink, you miss them.

I have the individual releases but saw a few from this set recently at a friends house and it didn't ruin my viewing experience. These glitches don't really matter. I think we get so spoiled as consumers that we're quick to jump on any little abnormality. I come from the day of recording beat up and edited prints off of television so I am perhaps a little more forgiving of these things.

The real question here is why didn't Columbia release these as a companion set to their 'ultimate collection' and instead farm it out to someone else? We're still missing a (re)release of Stop Look and Laugh and The Three Stooges in Orbit. It would have made a nice 5 disc collection from Columbia with a 6th devoted to trailers, the Screen Snapshots they appeared in, and other odds and ends.
Hi Larry!

At the time I posted with the "Dropped the Ball" statement, I had just finished viewing THE OUTLAWS IS COMING and had only seen the first ten minutes of TIME OUT FOR RHYTHM.  I think you have to admit that "Outlaws" was pretty messed up, what with the green frames in addition to the lone pixel, and as you earlier observed, the video was indeed, jerky on top of all that! 

However, having since viewed the other titles, I do agree with you regarding the rest of the collection in general.  If you read my review of this on Amazon, I think you'll find a fair and balanced evaluation that does accurately reflect the overall quality level of the set. 

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Larrys#1 on March 13, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Quote from: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I think 'dropped the ball' is a pretty harsh judgment of this release. A few glitches here and there sure but they don't take away from the viewing. If you blink, you miss them.

I have the individual releases but saw a few from this set recently at a friends house and it didn't ruin my viewing experience. These glitches don't really matter. I think we get so spoiled as consumers that we're quick to jump on any little abnormality. I come from the day of recording beat up and edited prints off of television so I am perhaps a little more forgiving of these things.

The real question here is why didn't Columbia release these as a companion set to their 'ultimate collection' and instead farm it out to someone else? We're still missing a (re)release of Stop Look and Laugh and The Three Stooges in Orbit. It would have made a nice 5 disc collection from Columbia with a 6th devoted to trailers, the Screen Snapshots they appeared in, and other odds and ends.

It is not a harsh judgment at all. It is more than fair. When we buy a product, we expect proper quality control. Of course, the set is so darn cheap, so maybe you're right to some extent. A beat up print is one thing, but it is unacceptable when we are catching glitches that are not due to the print, but because of faulty transferring. Most of the glitches, like the ones in Rockies and Rhythm, I can live with. But Outlaws is a complete mess.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
That is odd because Outlaws is one of the films I watched and it didn't look as bad to me as what has been described here. I don't work in the industry so I don't know how quality control works but I would think unless you have an expert (for the cases of when there are edits that slip through) sitting there watching every frame or someone sitting through all the films after the fact to check transfers, things could happen.

Those Columbia Curly-Joe features after Have Rocket have always had a cheap, washed out look to me anyway as if they shot them on cheaper film stock.

Still curious as to why Columbia licensed these out and omitted two films instead of doing something themselves to complete the library. Does anyone know why?
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 13, 2014, 01:04:57 PM
Quote from: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
That is odd because Outlaws is one of the films I watched and it didn't look as bad to me as what has been described here. I don't work in the industry so I don't know how quality control works but I would think unless you have an expert (for the cases of when there are edits that slip through) sitting there watching every frame or someone sitting through all the films after the fact to check transfers, things could happen.

Those Columbia Curly-Joe features after Have Rocket have always had a cheap, washed out lis set themsleves

Still curious as to why Columbia licensed these out and omitted two films instead of doing something themselves to complete the library. Does anyone know why?
Hi HELLOLARRY!

If it wasn't for the green frames that appear sporadically from about 45 minutes in, I could overlook the single instance of the green pixel, and the jittery video is most noticeable during the action sequences, although still annoying whenever it is obvious.  Unfortunately, I find it impossible to ignore the green screen frames.  I don't care how cut rate a DVD set is--there is simply NO excuse to justify the presence of green screen frames!  This, combined with the jittery video caused by unnecessary over-encoding is why I can't endorse THE OUTLAWS IS COMING as it appears on the Mill Creek Set!

Regarding your question as to why Sony chose not to release this set themselves, I believe there were likely a number of reasons.  First off, I recall having read that Sony decided there wasn't enough money to be made for them in reissuing these six "Stooges" Features, which they have already previously released to DVD.  Therefore, Sony allowed Mill Creek Entertainment to sub-license these, probably with the reasoning that they would make more money from their sub-licensing fee than if they had reissued these themselves.  While the last part is speculation on my part, it is my opinion that this was most likely Sony's reasoning for going this route.

As to why Sony didn't reissue the Columbia Features THE THREE STOOGES IN ORBIT and/or STOP! LOOK! AND LAUGH!, it is my opinion that the same reasoning applies.  Why they didn't also sub-license these titles, one can only guess!  Perhaps Mill Creek wasn't interested in these, or else maybe Sony is holding these titles back for some reason?

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
It is kind of odd and reminds me of how things were back in the day with the half-ass releases they used to do. Gosh, I've been purchasing and repurchasing these films for years. ha ha

My 'thought' is that maybe they didn't feel a Curly-Joe only set would sell on its own merit especially since all the films were previously available so they put Rhythm and Rockies in there to market it better(??). Maybe if these films are reconfigured again they can correct the glitches.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 13, 2014, 03:01:26 PM
Quote from: HELLOLARRY on March 13, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
It is kind of odd and reminds me of how things were back in the day with the half-ass releases they used to do. Gosh, I've been purchasing and repurchasing these films for years. ha ha

My 'thought' is that maybe they didn't feel a Curly-Joe only set would sell on its own merit especially since all the films were previously available so they put Rhythm and Rockies in there to market it better(??). Maybe if these films are reconfigured again they can correct the glitches.
Or else those who want all six "Stooges" Features "Glitch Free" can choose to shell out the extra money for the original (And still available!) Sony releases, instead.  Objectively speaking, in my opinion, THE OUTLAWS IS COMING is the only Film for which this action is really warranted, and I do plan on ordering this myself when my budget allows, likely next month.

CHEERS!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Mark The Shark on March 25, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
Thanks for the heads up and caveats. I have looked for this set in brick and mortar stores but have not run across it yet. The only film included that I don't already have on DVD is Time Out For Rhythm so it sounds like I'd be better off just getting the Sony Select version of that title. It's worth a few extra bucks to me. Sounds like I should be glad I have the Sony version of The Outlaws Is Coming!

I still would have preferred a full-screen option for these 1960s features, by the way. Yes, I know they would have been seen in theatres for their brief original releases in matted widescreen, but for the rest of their lives on TV it would have been full-frame until very recently. I find it really weird that of all the 1960s features, the one actually filmed in Cinemascope (as opposed to being projected matted), Snow White And The Three Stooges, was released on DVD both in widescreen and "pan and scan," which is completely different than open-matte.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 27, 2014, 02:34:27 AM
Quote from: Mark The Shark on March 25, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
Thanks for the heads up and caveats. I have looked for this set in brick and mortar stores but have not run across it yet. The only film included that I don't already have on DVD is Time Out For Rhythm so it sounds like I'd be better off just getting the Sony Select version of that title. It's worth a few extra bucks to me. Sounds like I should be glad I have the Sony version of The Outlaws Is Coming!
You're welcome, Mark!  I'll hopefully soon have the Sony DVD of THE OUTLAWS IS COMING as well.  I just placed an order for this through an Amazon Marketplace Merchant.

Quote from: Mark The Shark on March 25, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
I still would have preferred a full-screen option for these 1960s features, by the way. Yes, I know they would have been seen in theatres for their brief original releases in matted widescreen, but for the rest of their lives on TV it would have been full-frame until very recently. I find it really weird that of all the 1960s features, the one actually filmed in Cinemascope (as opposed to being projected matted), Snow White And The Three Stooges, was released on DVD both in widescreen and "pan and scan," which is completely different than open-matte.
I'm basically 50/50 regarding this one.  While the Full Screen Mattes used for Television provide more image, these geared for Widescreen Titles were filmed in such a way as to keep the important visuals within the 16x9 (At least they were supposed to!) area that was used for their original Theatrical Showings.

CHEERS!

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on March 29, 2014, 04:14:04 AM
Hmmm....I was just browsing around on Amazon, and I happened to come across THIS:

http://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Moe-Howard/dp/B00JAD6D9U/ref=sr_1_131?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1396083618&sr=1-131&keywords=the+three+stooges

Apparently Mill Creek has another Stooge set scheduled for release on 05/20.
As you can see though, there's no picture/contents, just the title. We can only wonder....
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on March 29, 2014, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Squirrelbait on March 29, 2014, 04:14:04 AM
Hmmm....I was just browsing around on Amazon, and I happened to come across THIS:

http://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Moe-Howard/dp/B00JAD6D9U/ref=sr_1_131?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1396083618&sr=1-131&keywords=the+three+stooges

Apparently Mill Creek has another Stooge set scheduled for release on 05/20.
As you can see though, there's no picture/contents, just the title. We can only wonder....

Never mind, it's just the original set repackaged in a fancy tin.

http://www.millcreekent.com/the-three-stooges-collector-s-tin.html

I got a little ahead of myself - sorry!


Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on March 29, 2014, 08:42:00 AM
Quote from: Squirrelbait on March 29, 2014, 04:18:57 AM
Never mind, it's just the original set repackaged in a fancy tin.

http://www.millcreekent.com/the-three-stooges-collector-s-tin.html
It isn't the packaging that needs redoing!  Seriously, repackaging damaged goods doesn't do anybody any favors.  It appears to me that Mill Creek has realized that they somewhat blew it with the digital transfers (Especially with THE OUTLAWS IS COMING!) and at this point are trying anything to sell a few extra copies of this set.

CHEERS!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on April 05, 2014, 11:22:26 PM
I've now viewed THE OUTLAWS IS COMING Sony DVD Transfer, and I can honestly say that despite the very minutely marginal Top/Bottom Image Cropping, this is much better than its glitchy/over-encoded Mill Creek Entertainment counterpart!  It's not even close!

CHEERS!  [3stooges]
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: ThumpTheShoes on April 06, 2014, 10:07:53 AM
Well, let's look at it from Sony's former marketing standpoint: If the Three Stooges shorts are funnier in color, then a feature-length Stooge film full of green screen flashes and blobs should be a frickin' side-splitting riot!!

 :laugh:
Laugh? I thought I'd never start! LOL!!!
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on April 06, 2014, 11:37:52 PM
Quote from: ThumpTheShoes on April 06, 2014, 10:07:53 AM
Well, let's look at it from Sony's former marketing standpoint: If the Three Stooges shorts are funnier in color, then a feature-length Stooge film full of green screen flashes and blobs should be a frickin' side-splitting riot!!

 :laugh:
Laugh? I thought I'd never start! LOL!!!

At one time, I had a Stooges - Funnier in Color pin that I had bought from Suncoast back in '04 when the color DVDs first came out. And I still do have it......somewhere.....

Too bad they didn't promote these in the same way.
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Tony Bensley on April 07, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Quote from: Squirrelbait on April 06, 2014, 11:37:52 PM
At one time, I had a Stooges - Funnier in Color pin that I had bought from Suncoast back in '04 when the color DVDs first came out. And I still do have it......somewhere.....

Too bad they didn't promote these in the same way.
Hi Squirrelbait!

Unfortunately, Mill Creek would have had to promote their "Special Edition" of THE OUTLAWS IS COMING as "Funny Looking Colors," or else something like "THE OUTLAWS IS COMING Goes Green," and the whole set as "The Good, The Bad, & The Glitchy!"   ;D

Needless to say, none of the above would have really gone over!   :P

CHEERS!   [3stooges]

Tony
Title: Re: "The Three Stooges 6-Movie Set" DVD Collection, Feb. 4, 2014
Post by: Squirrelbait on April 07, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Bensley on April 07, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Hi Squirrelbait!

Unfortunately, Mill Creek would have had to promote their "Special Edition" of THE OUTLAWS IS COMING as "Funny Looking Colors," or else something like "THE OUTLAWS IS COMING Goes Green," and the whole set as "The Good, The Bad, & The Glitchy!"   ;D

Needless to say, none of the above would have really gone over!   :P

CHEERS!   [3stooges]

Tony

'Going Green' reminds me of Svengoolie - the horror host on Me-TV. He once showed a Caesar Romero movie on his program, and purposely turned part of it green so the viewers could experience 'Caesar Salad Vision'!

Then for the rest of it, he periodically added burp/fart sound effects, in addition to a whole bunch of new jokes that, I'm pretty sure, wouldn't have been in the original movie.