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General Boards => Stooges DVD/VHS/Home Video => Topic started by: falsealarms on July 12, 2007, 12:08:16 AM
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Here's a wide range of DVD reviews covering various Stooge DVD/Blu Ray releases.
Updated 5/3/15
Three Stooges Triple Feature Collection - Vol 1 - BLU RAY
(Time Out For Rhythm, Rockin in the Rockies, Have Rocket, Will Travel)
Blu-Ray.com (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Three-Stooges-Collection-Volume-One-Triple-Feature-Blu-ray/124956/#Review)
Three Stooges Triple Feature Collection - Vol 2 - BLU RAY
(Three Stooges Meet Hercules, Three Stooges Go Around the World in a Daze, Outlaws is Coming)
Blu-Ray.com (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Three-Stooges-Collection-Volume-Two-Triple-Feature-Blu-ray/124955/#Review)
Classic Shorts From the Dream Factory, Vol 3
DVD Talk - Classic Shorts From the Dream Factory, Vol 3 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/66812/classic-shorts-from-the-dream-factory-volume-3-featuring-howard-fine-and-howard-the-three-stooges/)
The Vitaphone Comedy Collection - Vol 2
DVD Talk - The Vitaphone Comedy Collection - Vol 2 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/64333/vitaphone-comedy-collection-volume-two-shemp-howard-1933-1937/)
The Three Stooges - Rare Treasures from the Columbia Vault
DVD Drive In - The Three Stooges - Rare Treasures from the Columbia Vault (http://www.dvddrive-in.com/reviews/t-z/threestoogesraretreasures58.htm) (bonus set from The Ultimate Collection)
Cinema Sentries - The Three Stooges - Rare Treasures from the Columbia Vault (http://cinemasentries.com/review/the-three-stooges-rare-treasures-from-the-columbia-pictures-vault-dvd-review-an-excellent-collection-of-odds-and-ends/) (bonus set from The Ultimate Collection)
Hitless Wonder Movie Blog - The Three Stooges - Rare Treasures from the Columbia Vault (http://dandayjr35.blogspot.com/2013/01/dvd-review-three-stooges-rare-treasures.html) (bonus set from The Ultimate Collection)
The Vitaphone Comedy Collection - Vol 1
DVD Talk - The Vitaphone Comedy Collection - Vol 1 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/60723/vitaphone-comedy-collection-vol-1-roscoe-fatty-arbuckle-shemp-howard-1932-1934-the/)
Three Stooges Ultimate Collection Reviews
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Ultimate Collection (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/54884/three-stooges-the-ultimate-collection-the/)
In The Balcony - Three Stooges Ultimate Collection (http://www.inthebalcony.com/shorts/page42.html)
Volume 8 (1955-1959) DVD Reviews
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 8 1955-1959 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/300840/htf-dvd-review-the-three-stooges-collection-volume-eight-1955-1959)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 8 1955-1959 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43112/three-stooges-collection-vol-8-1955-1959-the/)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 8 1955-1959 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/44291/three-stooges-collection-volume-eight-1955-1959-the/) (A second review from DVD Talk)
Newark (N.J) Star-Ledger - Three Stooges Collection Vol 8 - 1955-1959 (http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2010/06/the_three_stooges_collection_v.html)
Inside Pulse - Three Stooges Collection Vol 8 1955-1959 (http://movies.insidepulse.com/2010/06/14/the-three-stooges-collection-volume-8-1955-1959-dvd-review/)
Volume 7 (1952-1954) DVD Reviews
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 7 1952-1954 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/39989/three-stooges-collection-vol-7-1952-1954-the/)
Volume 6 (1949-1951) DVD Reviews
Rogue Cinema - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://www.roguecinema.com/article-1757--0-0.html)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37758/three-stooges-collection-vol-6-1949-1951-the/)
The DVD Lounge - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://thedvdlounge.com/2009/06/27/the-three-stooges-collection-volume-six-1949-1951-dvd-review/)
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/3stooges6.php)
Entertainment Weekly - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/06/today-is-national-shemp-day-.html)
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/289111-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-vol-6-1949-1951-a.html)
Exclaim - Three Stooges Collection Vol 6 1949-1951 (http://www.exclaim.ca/motionreviews/latestsub.aspx?csid1=115&csid2=871&fid1=39017)
Volume 5 (1946-1948) DVD Reviews
The DVD Lounge - Three Stooges Collection Vol 5 1946-1948 (http://thedvdlounge.com/2009/04/15/the-three-stooges-collection-volume-5-1946-1948-dvd-review/)
Blog Critics - Three Stooges Collection Vol 5 1946-1948 (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2009/03/30/202348.php)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 5 1946-1948 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36678/three-stooges-collection-volume-five-1946-1948-the/)
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 5 1946-1948 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/283639-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-vol-five-1946-1948-a.html)
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 5 1946-1948 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/threestoogesvol5.php)
Volume 4 (1943-1945) DVD Reviews
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 4 1943-1945 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/stoogesvol4.php)
DVDTalk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 4 1943-1945 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34975/three-stooges-collection-volume-four-1943-1945-the/)
Collider.com - Three Stooges Collection Vol 4 1943-1945 (http://www.collider.com/dvd/reviews/article.asp/aid/9383/tcid/3)
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 4 1943-1945 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/277186-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-vol-4-1943-1945-a.html)
Volume 3 (1940-1942) DVD Reviews
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 3 1940-1942 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/stoogesvol3.php)
DVD Beaver - Three Stooges Collection Vol 3 1940-1942 (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews40/3_stooges_collection_vol._3.htm)
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 3 1940-1942 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/275596-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-volume-three-1940-1942-a.html)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 3 1940-1942 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34344/three-stooges-collection-vol-3-1940-1942-the/)
Collider.com - Three Stooges Collection Vol 3 1940-1942 (http://www.collider.com/dvd/reviews/article.asp/aid/9012/tcid/3)
Volume 2 (1937-1939) DVD Reviews
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/stoogesv2.php)
DVD Talk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/33520/three-stooges-collection-volume-two-1937-1939-the/)
Obsessed With Film - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/dvd-reviews/the-three-stooges-collection-volume-two-1937-1939.php)
Digitally Obsessed - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/displaylegacy.php?ID=10014)
DVD Beaver - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/3_stooges_collection_vol._2.htm)
Collider.com - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.collider.com/dvd/reviews/article.asp?aid=8006&tcid=3)
Home Theatre Forum - Three Stooges Collection Vol 2 1937-1939 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/272740-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-volume-two-1937-1939-a.html)
Volume 1 (1934-1936) DVD Reviews
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/stoogesv1.php)
Cinema Retro - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/1033-DVD-REVIEW-THE-THREE-STOOGES-COLLECTION-VOLUME-ONE.html)
DVDTalk - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=31248)
Home Theatre Fourm - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=264016)
DVD Beaver - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews33/3_stooges_collection_vol._1.htm)
Collider.com - Three Stooges Collection Vol 1 1934-1936 (http://www.collider.com/dvd/reviews/article.asp/aid/5899/tcid/3)
Reviews of Other Stooge DVD/Blu Ray Releases
Blu-Ray.com - Buck Privates (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Buck-Privates-Blu-ray/36918/#Review) (Shemp solo) BLU RAY
Blu-Ray.com - It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Its-a-Mad-Mad-Mad-Mad-World-Blu-ray/25491/#Review) (Moe, Larry, Curly Joe cameo) BLU RAY
Blu-Ray.com - Twilight Zone, Season 1 (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Twilight-Zone-Season-1-Blu-ray/11231/#Review) (DeRita appears in one episode) BLU RAY
DVD Talk - Strange Affair (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56680/strange-affair-1944/) (Shemp solo)
DVD Talk - Lone Wolf Meets A Lady (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/56233/lone-wolf-meets-a-lady-the/) (Shemp solo)
DVD Talk - Abbott & Costello Complete Universal Collection (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/35610/abbott-and-costello-the-complete-universal-pictures-collection/) (4 films with Shemp in the cast and a 5th with a Besser walk-on)
DVD Beaver - Abbott & Costello Complete Universal Collection (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews42/abbott_costello_complete_universal.htm)
DVD Beaver - Dr Death: Seeker of Souls (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/doctor_death.htm) (Moe solo)
DVDTalk.com - Swing Parade of 1946 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37534/rifftrax-swing-parade/)
DVDTalk.com - Three Stooges Meet Hercules (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=16677)
DVDTalk.com - Men Behind the Mayhem (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=15418)
DVDTalk.com - The Bravados (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/15927/bravados-the/?___rd=1) (DeRita solo)
DVDTalk.com - San Francisco (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/22397/san-francisco/) (Ted Healy solo)
DVDTalk.com - Charlie Chan Volume 5 (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34621/charlie-chan-volume-5//) (Includes Murder in New York - Shemp solo)
DVDTalk.com - It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=2661)
Digitally Obsessed - Three Stooges... In A Daze (http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=4752)
Digitally Obsessed - Three Stooges: All Time Favorites (http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/showreview.php3?ID=3351)
DVD Verdict - Three Stooges in Orbit (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/threestoogesinorbit.php)
DVD Verdict - Outlaws Is Coming (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/outlawsiscoming.php)
DVD Verdict - Arabian Nights (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/arabiannights1942.php) (Shemp in color!)
Home Theater Forum - Arabian Nights (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/253140/htf-review-universal-classics-arabian-nights-recommended)
M&C - Dancing Lady (http://dvd.monstersandcritics.com/reviews/article_1175968.php)
Blog Critics - Soup to Nuts (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/02/09/172213.php)
Forces of Geek - Soup to Nuts (http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2009/08/rube-goldberg-three-stooges-1930s-soup.html)
DVD Verdict -Invisible Man Collection (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/invisiblemanlegacy.php) (includes INVISIBLE WOMAN - Shemp cameo)
DVD Verdict -John Wayne -The Franchise Collection (http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/johnwayneicon.php) (includes PITTSBURGH - Shemp cameo)
DVD Beaver - The Complete Thin Man Collection (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews16/thin_man_collection.htm) (includes ANOTHER THIN MAN - Shemp cameo)
Home Theatre Forum - Busby Berkley Vol 2 (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/276702/htf-dvd-review-the-busby-berkeley-collection-volume-2) (includes Healy solos VARSITY SHOW and HOLLYWOOD HOTEL)
BUY EM
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A highly favorable review from film comedy scholar/author, Jim Neibaur...
Rogue Cinema (http://www.roguecinema.com/article1161.html)
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A highly favorable review from film comedy scholar/author, Jim Neibaur...
Rogue Cinema (http://www.roguecinema.com/article1161.html)
That was a great review, he brought up a good point to the fans to buy all the sets
so that sales don't drop to much when we get to the later Shemp and Joe Besser
eras. I want all the Shemps on DVD.
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That was a great review, he brought up a good point to the fans to buy all the sets
so that sales don't drop to much when we get to the later Shemp and Joe Besser
eras. I want all the Shemps on DVD.
I personally enjoy Shemp just as much as Curly. Joe was a bit annoying but since it would be stupid to skip him (and not have a complete set), I'll buy it at the end.
I wonder how long it will take before we even get to the Shemp years?
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It's great to see the exposure the new Sony DVD remastered set is getting.
All the reviews are worth reading, but if I had to recommend which to read first I'd say the DvdTalk review is the most enjoyable.
To updated the current Amazon standings for the set as of 11/11/2007, 2:15 PM EDT:
Amazon.com Sales Rank: #85 in DVD (See Bestsellers in DVD)
Popular in these categories: (What's this?)
#1 in DVD > Comedy > Parody & Spoof > Three Stooges
#5 in DVD > Comedy > Series & Sequels
#12 in DVD > Comedy > Television
Not surprisingly, it's holding on to the #1 slot for Three Stooges videos. ;)
It's also doing very well in the Series & Sequels category trailing just behind 3 Seasons of the US "The Office" series and the "Bender's Big Score" Futurama collection.
The set is also doing very respectable business in the Comedy Television category trailing behind extremely popular DVD series like the US "The Office", "Seinfeld" 8 & 9, some Futurama seasons, and one season of "Boston Legal (which I like to think of as Bill Shattner's channeling of the Stooges into the 21st Century)". [pie]
The only slightly troublesome volume above this Stooges set is season 8 of "Full House". :(
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ordered mine!
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Another favorable Volume 2 review, with screen captures...
DVD Beaver (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/3_stooges_collection_vol._2.htm)
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Another favorable Volume 2 review, with screen captures...
DVD Beaver (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/3_stooges_collection_vol._2.htm)
Added this to the list above. I gotta say - the menu's look a LOT better in this one. YMMV, though.
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Added this to the list above. I gotta say - the menu's look a LOT better in this one. YMMV, though.
Yeah, the menus look awesome. This sets looks like it'll be better than Volume 1. From the screenshots, it seems like all the shorts will look the best I've ever seen.
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Anyone know the sales figures of Vol. 1, relative to Sony's other material? Any word on a specific release schedule for the future? We had 7 months between the first two, at this rate it would take some time to see Shemp, not to mention Besser.
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The figure is around 12,500-13,000 units. Sony called Volume 1 sales "very good" for this genre.
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Updated again with more reviews for vol 2.
DVD Talk will have one later this week too.
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The Collider.com review should be discounted for using colourised screenshots in their review of this set!
And, talk about lazy (or, is it leery?) I'm not even going to register at their site to tell them what I think!
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Volume 3 review from DVDTalk.com. Enjoy! ;)
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34344/three-stooges-collection-vol-3-1940-1942-the/
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Volume 3 review from DVDTalk.com. Enjoy! ;)
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/34344/three-stooges-collection-vol-3-1940-1942-the/
I was expecting a better review than that from DVDTalk. That review was really vague.
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I was expecting a better review than that from DVDTalk. That review was really vague.
After looking over the reviews of volume 1 and 2 on DVDTalk, which were both written by the same person, i would agree. That one was small is comparison.
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Actually, it's the longest of the three articles that reviewer wrote. And I don't think it's "vague" at all. He details each short, and tells you what he does and doesn't like about them. He obviously knows the Stooges (and loves them), so what's "vague" about it?
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Actually, it's the longest of the three articles that reviewer wrote. And I don't think it's "vague" at all. He details each short, and tells you what he does and doesn't like about them. He obviously knows the Stooges (and loves them), so what's "vague" about it?
A lot of us know what the shorts are about and we all know what shorts are good or bad. On these DVD reviews, we're expecting the reviewer to get into more detail about the video and audio quality. The reviewer here only had two sentences on it. He should have went more in-depth.
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Well, I don't think that review is intended strictly for the readers of this forum, do you? It's a general review for general audiences -- many of whom might not be familiar with the shorts.
As for the audio/visual quality, he states quite clearly that it's as good as the first two volumes -- which he detailed in the two earlier reviews (why repeat in detail what he's already detailed?) -- reviews, by the way, that everybody here seem to find okay. So what's the beef?
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Well, I don't think that review is intended strictly for the readers of this forum, do you? It's a general review for general audiences -- many of whom might not be familiar with the shorts.
As for the audio/visual quality, he states quite clearly that it's as good as the first two volumes -- which he detailed in the two earlier reviews (why repeat in detail what he's already detailed?) -- reviews, by the way, that everybody here seem to find okay. So what's the beef?
I don't know. I was just expecting a little more.
You seem a little offended at what I said. I, in no way, intended to offend anyone. If the reviewer is happy with that kind of review and if "general audiences" are happy with it, then that's great. I, myself, am not that thrilled about it.
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Nothing in my posts suggest I'm offended; not sure why you'd read them that way.
I'm just trying to understand why you find the review lacking. But you state you don't really know why, so there's my answer.
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I see. Well, the reason I found it lacking was because I'm not a general audience. I'm a die-hard fan. So, I was expecting more that just a general overview of the video and audio quality.
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Updated with a few vol 3 reviews trickling in a little earlier than expected.
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Well, do you have a review I could read that has more detailed analysis of the video and audio? Because what that guy wrote in his three reviews seemed to cover it pretty well: he says they're close to pristine. We know Sony hasn't screwed them up. This is, after all, the third volume, and I haven't read anything from die-hard fans like you that says Sony has screwed them up, so other than a problem with a specific short, which he doesn't mention, what more could he say?
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Well, do you have a review I could read that has more detailed analysis of the video and audio? Because what that guy wrote in his three reviews seemed to cover it pretty well: he says they're close to pristine. We know Sony hasn't screwed them up. This is, after all, the third volume, and I haven't read anything from die-hard fans like you that says Sony has screwed them up, so other than a problem with a specific short, which he doesn't mention, what more could he say?
Those reviews are all I have. From the first two releases, I can say that the video and audio has never been better. You might be able to expect both the video and audio to be better as these releases go on ... technological improvements from the 30s to 40s to 50s etc.
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Well, do you have a review I could read that has more detailed analysis of the video and audio? Because what that guy wrote in his three reviews seemed to cover it pretty well: he says they're close to pristine. We know Sony hasn't screwed them up. This is, after all, the third volume, and I haven't read anything from die-hard fans like you that says Sony has screwed them up, so other than a problem with a specific short, which he doesn't mention, what more could he say?
Yes, I did write reviews on the first two volumes. Had you looked around the site a little more and tried arguing with me less, then you would have seen it. What's the big deal? My opinion was: the DVD review was vague. Why are you acting as if I commit such a terrible crime by saying that?
Here are my reviews on Volumes 1 and 2, in case you're interested:
Volume 1- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=1933.0
Volume 2- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=2388.0
BTW, falsealarms has a whole list of reviews on the original post. I thought DVD Beaver's review of Volumes 1 and 2 were excellent.
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Yes, I did write reviews on the first two volumes. Had you looked around the site a little more and tried arguing with me less, then you would have seen it. What's the big deal? My opinion was: the DVD review was vague. Why are you acting as if I commit such a terrible crime by saying that?
Here are my reviews on Volumes 1 and 2, in case you're interested:
Volume 1- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=1933.0
Volume 2- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=2388.0
I'll add those to the list above... hopefully you it again for the 3rd.
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Yes, I did write reviews on the first two volumes. Had you looked around the site a little more and tried arguing with me less, then you would have seen it. What's the big deal? My opinion was: the DVD review was vague. Why are you acting as if I commit such a terrible crime by saying that?
Here are my reviews on Volumes 1 and 2, in case you're interested:
Volume 1- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=1933.0
Volume 2- http://threestooges.net/forums/index.php?topic=2388.0
It's a common "straw man" argument to purposefully misinterpret something someone wrote, and then counter it. Nothing in my posts suggest you committed a "terrible crime," as you put it. I'm merely trying to understand why you chose to knock that review. Reading over your two reviews, I didn't see much of anything that was truly substantial when it came to analysis of the A/V. You merely went short by short, saying they looked better than they used to look on video and DVD. Well...of course they do. They've been cleaned up and restored. You even indicate that audio was clipped off due to your player (what does that have to do with the actual audio quality of the discs?). What you term "vague" in that guy's review, I term "pendantic" and "obvious" in yours.
No big deal. I understand where you're coming from now. No hard feelings, either -- isn't wasn't an argument; just questions.
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I hope I can make my point clearer this time. I'll do my best. The Volume 3 review on DVD Talk was vague if you compare it to the Volumes 1 and 2 reviews. In Volumes 1 and 2, the reviewer went more in detail as to how these shorts sound and look. No, I don't expect him to repeat himself, but I'm sure there is something that's in Volume 3 that's worth noting. If I'm expecting too much, then I apologize.
Like I said earlier, read the DVD Beaver reviews for Volumes 1 and 2. Those are excellent reviews and I'm anxious to see their review on Volume 3 if they plan on writing one.
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It's a common "straw man" argument to purposefully misinterpret something someone wrote, and then counter it. Nothing in my posts suggest you committed a "terrible crime," as you put it. I'm merely trying to understand why you chose to knock that review. ....What you term "vague" in that guy's review, I term "pendantic" (sic) and "obvious" in yours.
Shempyshine,
I noticed you just registered today, and your 5 posts are exclusive to this thread. All of those posts are at least mildly hostile toward xraffle. Could it be you are the very reviewer from DVDTalk under discussion here. Or perhaps he's a good friend or relative. It's just interesting to me that on your first posts here, you decide to take up a fight with a veteran of this forum over an issue that hardly seems worth arguing. Unless of course it bruised your own pride? Can't take a little criticism concerning what you write? Get over it and go write another review.
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Howdy,
Stuart Galbraith IV here. A colleague alerted me to this thread. I have no idea who Shempyshine is, other than it ain't me. Maybe it's somebody I know, maybe not. If it is, no one's told me they're posting on this forum.
I strongly object to AmalgamatedMoron's utterly unfounded speculation, which has only made me take time away from other writing to deal with this frankly idiotic problem.
As for my reviews, you can read 'em or not -- I really don't care one way or the other. However, based on the email feedback I've been getting, most fans of the team, whether casual or obsessive, can tell I'm writing with a genuine, informed, and lifelong affection for the Stooges.
From what I can see, 99% of the people writing in this forum feel the same way; I only wish its monitors would reign in folks like AmalgamatedMoron, who throw a wet blanket on everything with their (as it turns out, totally wrong) personal attacks.
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I for one was not having a dig at you, i only said that your volume 3 review was shorter than the others.
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Howdy,
Stuart Galbraith IV here. A colleague alerted me to this thread. I have no idea who Shempyshine is, other than it ain't me. Maybe it's somebody I know, maybe not. If it is, no one's told me they're posting on this forum.
I strongly object to AmalgamatedMoron's utterly unfounded speculation, which has only made me take time away from other writing to deal with this frankly idiotic problem.
As for my reviews, you can read 'em or not -- I really don't care one way or the other. However, based on the email feedback I've been getting, most fans of the team, whether casual or obsessive, can tell I'm writing with a genuine, informed, and lifelong affection for the Stooges.
From what I can see, 99% of the people writing in this forum feel the same way; I only wish its monitors would reign in folks like AmalgamatedMoron, who throw a wet blanket on everything with their (as it turns out, totally wrong) personal attacks.
For physical proof, your IP address and Shempyshine's are not even close, so yeah, you're obviously not one and the same.
I'll just throw that little bit of information out there, and since I trust this won't get further out of hand, I'll let those involved settle this on their own.
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Howdy,
Stuart Galbraith IV here. A colleague alerted me to this thread. I have no idea who Shempyshine is, other than it ain't me. Maybe it's somebody I know, maybe not. If it is, no one's told me they're posting on this forum.
I strongly object to AmalgamatedMoron's utterly unfounded speculation, which has only made me take time away from other writing to deal with this frankly idiotic problem.
As for my reviews, you can read 'em or not -- I really don't care one way or the other. However, based on the email feedback I've been getting, most fans of the team, whether casual or obsessive, can tell I'm writing with a genuine, informed, and lifelong affection for the Stooges.
From what I can see, 99% of the people writing in this forum feel the same way; I only wish its monitors would reign in folks like AmalgamatedMoron, who throw a wet blanket on everything with their (as it turns out, totally wrong) personal attacks.
Mr. Stuart Galbraith, I presume. Thank you for your reply. My last post was conjecture that was meant to be mostly tongue in cheek. I hope you can understand my reaction to a person who appears to have opened an account for the express purpose of attacking the opinion of xraffle. Who appeared to take the critique rather personally, and thus it appeared this person was being less than objective about xraffle's rather innocuous description of the review under discussion as "vague". Unless it is purely coincidental that "shempyshine's" account was opened today, and the 5 posts thus offered by that person were a vehement defense of your article. It's not the best way to introduce oneself to the forum.
I personally had no critique of your review, and thought it was a finely written piece. But xraffle disagreed and drew the ire of someone--who I now candidly acknowledge is not you--and got into a pie throwing match (no pun intended). I said what I did for the express purpose of drawing that individual out; to explain his or her subdued outrage over an opinion left by a veteran of this forum.
I apologize if you were offended, as I doubted that shempyshine was really you in the first place. As I said, I liked your review of the DVD, and I meant no harm to your reputation. Please accept my apology, and be sure to thank this person (shempyshine), who is obviously a true fan of your writing.
Sincerely, Paul
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Howdy,
Stuart Galbraith IV here. A colleague alerted me to this thread. I have no idea who Shempyshine is, other than it ain't me. Maybe it's somebody I know, maybe not. If it is, no one's told me they're posting on this forum.
I strongly object to AmalgamatedMoron's utterly unfounded speculation, which has only made me take time away from other writing to deal with this frankly idiotic problem.
As for my reviews, you can read 'em or not -- I really don't care one way or the other. However, based on the email feedback I've been getting, most fans of the team, whether casual or obsessive, can tell I'm writing with a genuine, informed, and lifelong affection for the Stooges.
From what I can see, 99% of the people writing in this forum feel the same way; I only wish its monitors would reign in folks like AmalgamatedMoron, who throw a wet blanket on everything with their (as it turns out, totally wrong) personal attacks.
Stuart,
Like I said in an earlier post, I never intended to offend anyone. I'm actually shocked that the reviewers on DVD Talk actually read the posts on this site. Anyway, I never said your review was bad. Your review was actually good. You did a good job rating each short. It's just that I though you could have went more in detail about the video and audio quality. That's all. Opinions are allowed on this site, so that was my opinion on your review. If I hurt your feelings by saying it was vague, then I apologize.
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Shempyshine,
I noticed you just registered today, and your 5 posts are exclusive to this thread. All of those posts are at least mildly hostile toward xraffle. Could it be you are the very reviewer from DVDTalk under discussion here. Or perhaps he's a good friend or relative. It's just interesting to me that on your first posts here, you decide to take up a fight with a veteran of this forum over an issue that hardly seems worth arguing. Unless of course it bruised your own pride? Can't take a little criticism concerning what you write? Get over it and go write another review.
I hadn't planned on coming back to this forum, but then I received another email indicating a response to my post, so I peeked back. Unbelievable. Looking back over the posts here, my posts have been described variously as, "a little offended," accusing someone of "a terrible crime," "at least mildly hostile," looking for a "fight," that I posted for the "express purpose of attacking," that I mounted a "vehement defense" of a writer I've never read before until you posted him, and most hilariously, my "subdued outrage." Seriously; the two people who posted those comments need to step back and take a deep breath. I defy anyone to point out anything in my posts that comes close to that hysterical hyperbole.
Even worse, you attack that guy who wrote the review, and actually accuse him of being me. And yes, AmalgamatedMoron, that's precisely what you meant in your first post. It wasn't "mostly tongue in cheek." You meant it, and then the guy called you on it, and you had to back down. And even in your apology, you still didn't sound convinced ("I presume," and telling him to "thank me.")
I came to this site because I wanted info on the third volume of the Stooges DVD. I hadn't read that guy before, until I scanned the links for the various Stooge reviews at the top of this forum. His seemed pretty good (I wasn't aware of his site, either, but I'll be checking it out). I'm no expert in the Stooges, but he gave me all the detail I needed. I even checked out his earlier reviews on the Stooges that he mentioned in the review -- the ones that had more detail about A/V. So when I saw the post about knocking his review, I simply wanted to understand what was wrong with it. xraffle said at first he didn't know why he said what he said, but then gave a reason and posted his two reviews -- reviews that I didn't find any more detailed than that other guy Stuart. As far as I was concerned, that was it for me: I had my answer. But then all sorts of incorrect inference was drawn from my posts, and I defended myself.
You can reply to this post if you want, but I won't be back. All I wanted was info on the Stooges DVD, and an answer as to why another review that I thought was fine, got knocked. The two posters who turned this into something personal (with ridiculous, overemphatic readings of what I wrote -- seriously, "subdued outrage"???) are pretty typical of these kinds of forums -- that's why newcomers rarely sign up to speak. Increasingly, these forums are just "internet back alleys" for bullies who don't like being questioned on their turf. You can see that in the response from Amalgamated -- his indignation that a newcomer would dare to question xraffle, is palpable.
But that's fine. Enjoy your forum. I'll go elsewhere for info on the Stooges, I guess.
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Shempyshine,
I didn't mean for this to be such a big problem. I gave my opinion on a review and you were making a big deal about it. I would like to extend my apologies to you and Stuart for any trouble I may have caused. You see, you kept on questioning my opinion. You used phrases such as "What's the beef?" and it came out as if you were angry at my comment. I didn't mean to cause such a problem. You are free to question me. I don't know where you got that idea that you can't.
I gave it another chance, but it doesn't seem to be working out. Every time I give an opinion on something, a big mess occurs. I will refrain from opining on anything from now on.
x
P.S.- It doesn't look like I'm doing a good job posting here. I really don't want to be the cause for members leaving or for preventing new members from joining. So, I'll try not to post much to avoid anymore future problems. I apologize to Shempyshine, Stuart, and the admins for the trouble that I have caused. I never intended for this to happen.
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Shempyshine,
So let me get this straight you went through all the trouble to register, which would've taken you about 10 minutes, all because you wanted to ask Xraffle why he called that review "vague"? :laugh:
So you didnt want to pick a fight and that wasnt your sole purpose for registering? Please dont forget your promise to us and come back here to reply.
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Shempyshine,
I didn't mean for this to be such a big problem. I gave my opinion on a review and you were making a big deal about it. I would like to extend my apologies to you and Stuart for any trouble I may have caused. You see, you kept on questioning my opinion. You used phrases such as "What's the beef?" and it came out as if you were angry at my comment. I didn't mean to cause such a problem. You are free to question me. I don't know where you got that idea that you can't.
I gave it another chance, but it doesn't seem to be working out. Every time I give an opinion on something, a big mess occurs. I will refrain from opining on anything from now on.
x
P.S.- It doesn't look like I'm doing a good job posting here. I really don't want to be the cause for members leaving or for preventing new members from joining. So, I'll try not to post much to avoid anymore future problems. I apologize to Shempyshine, Stuart, and the admins for the trouble that I have caused. I never intended for this to happen.
Mate you're a valued member of this forum and i would hate to see you leave. So please dont, Shempyshine and Stuart probably wont be back.
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Mate you're a valued member of this forum and i would hate to see you leave. So please dont, Shempyshine and Stuart probably wont be back.
I'm not leaving. I'll just try to post less to avoid anymore problems here.
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I'm not leaving. I'll just try to post less to avoid anymore problems here.
Oh good, post as much as you want. No problems here. [cool]
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I'm not leaving. I'll just try to post less to avoid anymore problems here.
Don't sweat it. Personally, I'm not worried about the A/V quality at this point, so I thought you were more concerned about that than necessary, but it's no big deal. (Sony's already demonstrated that they are doing a good job at remastering the shorts, so unless there is an actual A/V problem with a short I don't really expect reviewers of the DVDs to keep talking about it.)
I think Stooges#1 expressed my own reaction to this "controversy" in his comments to Shempyshine, above. It appears to me that the guy registered just to start trouble. Don't worry about causing a controversy by saying something. There are far too many overly sensitive people these days who can't stand to be contradicted or criticized. I don't like criticism either, but unless someone convinces me that I was wrong I stick by my guns, and those who don't like it can bloody well lump it. ;D
As I've said before, I don't ban people for having an opinion, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. If someone gets banned over an opinion around here, it's only because they're being particularly rude and obnoxious about it (and then usually because they're being rude and obnoxious to the admins, who can do something about that!) ;)
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Don't sweat it. Personally, I'm not worried about the A/V quality at this point, so I thought you were more concerned about that than necessary, but it's no big deal. (Sony's already demonstrated that they are doing a good job at remastering the shorts, so unless there is an actual A/V problem with a short I don't really expect reviewers of the DVDs to keep talking about it.)
I think Stooges#1 expressed my own reaction to this "controversy" in his comments to Shempyshine, above. It appears to me that the guy registered just to start trouble. Don't worry about causing a controversy by saying something. There are far too many overly sensitive people these days who can't stand to be contradicted or criticized. I don't like criticism either, but unless someone convinces me that I was wrong I stick by my guns, and those who don't like it can bloody well lump it. ;D
As I've said before, I don't ban people for having an opinion, regardless of whether or not I agree with them. If someone gets banned over an opinion around here, it's only because they're being particularly rude and obnoxious about it (and then usually because they're being rude and obnoxious to the admins, who can do something about that!) ;)
I'm not too worried about the quality either. It's just that when I looked at the review, I was expecting to read more about the A/V quality. So, I thought I'd post here and say what I thought of it.
It did look like this guy was trying to start trouble, but he claimed that he wasn't and that I was misreading his post. And because Paul and I misread his post, he left the site. He even claimed that this is why new members rarely post here. I really hate to be the cause of this because the more members this site has, the better it is.
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Actually, only a small percentage of people who register here ever post, and that's been true since the very beginning. I'd say that only about 5-6% ever actually post or actively participate, if that. I've never worried about it, though, since the forum is the least important part of the site.
There used to be a number of Stooges-related boards in the past, but most of them disappeared (thanks in large part to our friend ISLIPP's nonsense.) This board is still around just because I'm too stubborn and opinionated to give up. (It's the Scot in me; we're just naturally rebellious, I guess.)
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Lets hope these boards don't go anywhere.
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Lets hope these boards don't go anywhere.
They won't. As I said, I'm too stubborn to give up. [braveheart]
I've also begun to make arrangements to continue this site after I'm gone. I've put too much into this effort into the site, and so has BeAStooge and the Team Stooge members; I'm not willing to let it fall to the wayside when I'm dead (although that will hopefully be years away, God willing.)
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They won't. As I said, I'm too stubborn to give up. [braveheart]
I've also begun to make arrangements to continue this site after I'm gone. I've put to much into this effort into the site, and so has BeAStooge and the Team Stooge members; I'm not willing to let it fall to the wayside when I'm dead (although that will hopefully be years away, God willing.)
Yeah, don't give up. This site is the best Three Stooges site out there. And there is so much on this site. It would be devastating to just tear it all down.
It's nice to see that you're willing to keep this site after you're gone. I bet Shemps#1 will be the new Administrator. ;)
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I hadn't planned on coming back to this forum, but then I received another email indicating a response to my post, so I peeked back. Unbelievable. Looking back over the posts here, my posts have been described variously as, "a little offended," accusing someone of "a terrible crime," "at least mildly hostile," looking for a "fight," that I posted for the "express purpose of attacking," that I mounted a "vehement defense" of a writer I've never read before until you posted him, and most hilariously, my "subdued outrage." Seriously; the two people who posted those comments need to step back and take a deep breath. I defy anyone to point out anything in my posts that comes close to that hysterical hyperbole.
Even worse, you attack that guy who wrote the review, and actually accuse him of being me. And yes, AmalgamatedMoron, that's precisely what you meant in your first post. It wasn't "mostly tongue in cheek." You meant it, and then the guy called you on it, and you had to back down. And even in your apology, you still didn't sound convinced ("I presume," and telling him to "thank me.")
I came to this site because I wanted info on the third volume of the Stooges DVD. I hadn't read that guy before, until I scanned the links for the various Stooge reviews at the top of this forum. His seemed pretty good (I wasn't aware of his site, either, but I'll be checking it out). I'm no expert in the Stooges, but he gave me all the detail I needed. I even checked out his earlier reviews on the Stooges that he mentioned in the review -- the ones that had more detail about A/V. So when I saw the post about knocking his review, I simply wanted to understand what was wrong with it. xraffle said at first he didn't know why he said what he said, but then gave a reason and posted his two reviews -- reviews that I didn't find any more detailed than that other guy Stuart. As far as I was concerned, that was it for me: I had my answer. But then all sorts of incorrect inference was drawn from my posts, and I defended myself.
You can reply to this post if you want, but I won't be back. All I wanted was info on the Stooges DVD, and an answer as to why another review that I thought was fine, got knocked. The two posters who turned this into something personal (with ridiculous, overemphatic readings of what I wrote -- seriously, "subdued outrage"???) are pretty typical of these kinds of forums -- that's why newcomers rarely sign up to speak. Increasingly, these forums are just "internet back alleys" for bullies who don't like being questioned on their turf. You can see that in the response from Amalgamated -- his indignation that a newcomer would dare to question xraffle, is palpable.
But that's fine. Enjoy your forum. I'll go elsewhere for info on the Stooges, I guess.
Wow! Talk about being overly sensitive. This guy has an agenda, something to prove, doesn't he? Just so we are clear, let's remember what he said. Because he "defies anyone" to point out anything in his posts that comes close to the "hysterical hyperbole" suggested by xraffle and myself. And let's remember, he only came here for "info" on the third volume of the Stooges Collection. He first said:
Actually, it's the longest of the three articles that reviewer wrote. And I don't think it's "vague" at all. He details each short, and tells you what he does and doesn't like about them. He obviously knows the Stooges (and loves them), so what's "vague" about it?
Ok, an honest question. No big deal so far (though I'm curious how he knows the reviewer "loves" the Stooges). He's answered, and then responds with this:
Well, I don't think that review is intended strictly for the readers of this forum, do you? It's a general review for general audiences -- many of whom might not be familiar with the shorts.
As for the audio/visual quality, he states quite clearly that it's as good as the first two volumes -- which he detailed in the two earlier reviews (why repeat in detail what he's already detailed?) -- reviews, by the way, that everybody here seem to find okay. So what's the beef?
Continues to push the issue, and is answered again. He responds with this:
Nothing in my posts suggest I'm offended; not sure why you'd read them that way.
I'm just trying to understand why you find the review lacking. But you state you don't really know why, so there's my answer.
He claims he has his answer, but continues anyway.
Well, do you have a review I could read that has more detailed analysis of the video and audio? Because what that guy wrote in his three reviews seemed to cover it pretty well: he says they're close to pristine. We know Sony hasn't screwed them up. This is, after all, the third volume, and I haven't read anything from die-hard fans like you that says Sony has screwed them up, so other than a problem with a specific short, which he doesn't mention, what more could he say?
Where exactly did xraffle say that "Sony screwed them up"? Hmmm....I'm beginning to wonder why this guy is so upset that he's making up alleged quotes out of whole cloth, or at least suggests that xraffle insinuated such a thing.? In fact, xraffle wrote of Volume 2:
Overall, Sony did an excellent job with this set. They did a much better job than I expected and I hope they keep up the good work.
Shempyshine continues:
It's a common "straw man" argument to purposefully misinterpret something someone wrote, and then counter it. Nothing in my posts suggest you committed a "terrible crime," as you put it. I'm merely trying to understand why you chose to knock that review. Reading over your two reviews, I didn't see much of anything that was truly substantial when it came to analysis of the A/V. You merely went short by short, saying they looked better than they used to look on video and DVD. Well...of course they do. They've been cleaned up and restored. You even indicate that audio was clipped off due to your player (what does that have to do with the actual audio quality of the discs?). What you term "vague" in that guy's review, I term "pendantic" and "obvious" in yours.
No big deal. I understand where you're coming from now. No hard feelings, either -- isn't wasn't an argument; just questions.
No hard feelings of course, but xraffle is "pendantic" (sic) in his reviews. Riiight, it's just "questions" he has. But wait, he's not finished yet. Thus we have his final post quoted above. He says:
Even worse, you attack that guy who wrote the review, and actually accuse him of being me. And yes, AmalgamatedMoron, that's precisely what you meant in your first post. It wasn't "mostly tongue in cheek." You meant it, and then the guy called you on it, and you had to back down. And even in your apology, you still didn't sound convinced ("I presume," and telling him to "thank me.")
So I attacked the "guy who wrote the review", rather than using a clever ploy to find out if in fact it was Mr. Galbraith. Shempyshine knows this because God has endowed him with omniscience, and thus he read my mind and knew full well my intentions, my assertion to the contrary notwithstanding. My intent was to draw the gentleman out, on the slight chance that it was actually him. Given the possibility that it was him, or at least was a fan of Mr. Galbraith, because shempyshine so vociferously defended him. After he actually showed up (to my surprise) and revealed himself, that issue was resolved.
Shempyshine then enlightens everyone that I did not truly apologize to Mr. Galbraith because I didn't "sound convinced". Apparently he has a gift for hearing voice inflections in text type. Even when there is a complete lack of sarcasm. I was rather serious in apologizing for offending Mr. Galbraith, and in suggesting he thank shempyshine, who obviously has a fondness for his writing. Though he is misguided in how he handles his "disagreement" with anyone who dares to question that which he deems fine and dandy.
After Mr. Galbraith posted here, I allegedly "had to back down". Hardly--I succeeded in accomplishing what I set out to do. Discover if in fact Shempyshine and Stuart Galbraith were one and the same. Now we know. I apologized to Mr. Galbraith, and chastised shempyshine for his behavior. Mission accomplished. Elvis has left the building!
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Lets hope these boards don't go anywhere.
I totally agree, I love coming here.
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I totally agree, I love coming here.
I second that Justin. Long live ThreeStooges.net!
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I second that Justin. Long live ThreeStooges.net!
I'll third that one! I really enjoy this site. It's the best Stooges site ever! Dunrobin, you have done and continue to do a top notch job for our boys. Ted, Moe, Larry, Curly, Shemp, Joe and Curly-Joe would be proud. As am I. Keep up the good work!
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Paul,
Great post. You couldn't have said it better. I'm glad it's not just me and that I'm not jumping to conclusions. This guy did obviously try and start trouble. It wasn't the questions that bothered me, it was the fact that he continued to push it. Of all the posts on this forum, why did he pick my post and constantly bug me about my minor criticism. He also used the phrase, "What's the beef?" as if I was complaining about the guy's review. I was not complaining. All I said was that it was "vague." I never said it was a bad review or anything. Yet, this guy chooses to lose sleep over that one silly word. It was just an opinion and it was not meant to hurt the reviewer in any way. I probably was expecting too much when reading the A/V review, but that's just me. I'm a fussy person. It's been made known a few years ago that I'm an anal-retentive person. So, I hope Stuart doesn't take my silly criticism too personally.
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Paul,
Great post. You couldn't have said it better. I'm glad it's not just me and that I'm not jumping to conclusions. This guy did obviously try and start trouble. It wasn't the questions that bothered me, it was the fact that he continued to push it. Of all the posts on this forum, why did he pick my post and constantly bug me about my minor criticism. He also used the phrase, "What's the beef?" as if I was complaining about the guy's review. I was not complaining. All I said was that it was "vague." I never said it was a bad review or anything. Yet, this guy chooses to lose sleep over that one silly word. It was just an opinion and it was not meant to hurt the reviewer in any way. I probably was expecting too much when reading the A/V review, but that's just me. I'm a fussy person. It's been made known a few years ago that I'm an anal-retentive person. So, I hope Stuart doesn't take my silly criticism too personally.
I agree. Here's my question: What's the beef with all the people who keep coming on here and causing problems? All they're doing is trying to mess up the good thing we have going here. Basically, we're a bunch of old film buffs. But these guys coming on here are nothing more than troublemakers. I seriously doubt if they're even Stooge fans.
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I agree. Here's my question: What's the beef with all the people who keep coming on here and causing problems? All they're doing is trying to mess up the good thing we have going here. Basically, we're a bunch of old film buffs. But these guys coming on here are nothing more than troublemakers. I seriously doubt if they're even Stooge fans.
I know. You have no idea how much I enjoy posting here, but then we have newbies come over and start trouble. What makes it even more troublesome is that these people make it look like I'm the bad guy. They even leave and make me look like this jerk that chases people away.
I know people like falsealarms was looking forward to my review of Volume 3, but I think I may pass as it may just cause more problems and controversy. It's all for the best. I may post some screenshots though if I'm in the mood.
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Paul,
Great post. You couldn't have said it better. I'm glad it's not just me and that I'm not jumping to conclusions. This guy did obviously try and start trouble. It wasn't the questions that bothered me, it was the fact that he continued to push it. Of all the posts on this forum, why did he pick my post and constantly bug me about my minor criticism. He also used the phrase, "What's the beef?" as if I was complaining about the guy's review. I was not complaining. All I said was that it was "vague." I never said it was a bad review or anything. Yet, this guy chooses to lose sleep over that one silly word. It was just an opinion and it was not meant to hurt the reviewer in any way. I probably was expecting too much when reading the A/V review, but that's just me. I'm a fussy person. It's been made known a few years ago that I'm an anal-retentive person. So, I hope Stuart doesn't take my silly criticism too personally.
Thanks xraffle,
That guy had a bone to pick with you from the get go. He just wouldn't let it go. As for your tastes concerning the A/V quality of cinema, I agree 100%. Even for material as aged as the Stooges, it's not too much to ask for the best quality possible (the boys certainly deserve nothing less!). I too share your attention to detail in the video and audio quality of what I watch at home. Not to mention that I always opt for my local cinema's THX certified theater whenever possible, and if not, at least one of the theater's equipped with a Texas Instruments digital projector, and high quality digital surround. Today's movies with the latest in hi-def, digital video - and up to 7 or 8 channels of distinct digital sound (think of Dolby's next generation "True HD", "lossless technology"--pardon the drool), deserve the best equipment to display what the film's creators want us to experience. We are true audio/video-phile's. We aren't always appreciated. But don't worry, we understand each other, even if others don't.
You are absolutely correct about the review. While I thought it was OK, many such reviewers share the same concerns as you and I, and usually go into great detail about the A/V quailty. Even losing many of their readers to the technical language and description. That gentleman could have been much more descriptive about the A/V quality of the third release. Perhaps he doesn't share our level of concern in that area. I have become so spoiled by the video quality of these new DVD's, that I can hardly watch an old transfer on a previous VHS release, or even on TV. Your concerns are certainly warranted, not to mention appreciated by myself, and I'm sure, others as well.
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I have become so spoiled by the video quality of these new DVD's, that I can hardly watch an old transfer on a previous VHS release, or even on TV. Your concerns are certainly warranted, not to mention appreciated by myself, and I'm sure, others as well.
Yeah, I am also spoiled with these new sets. Whenever I watch one of the older themed DVDs, I can't get over how much dust and scratches are on the picture. Sony did a really nice job cleaning up the shorts on these new DVDs.
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Updated again with a review from DVD Beaver... their review seemed to be one a few people wanted to see.
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Updated again with a review from DVD Beaver... their review seemed to be one a few people wanted to see.
Awesome review!! I love those screenshots. From what I see there, it looks like A Plumbing We Will Go, So Long, Mr. Chumps and All The World's A Stooge look better than ever. I bet I'm going to enjoy this set. S&C was absolutely right. Sony had some misleading clips on their site.
BTW, looking at those screenshots reminded me of something. You know, I just recently found out that the same actress, Lorna Gray, who played Mattie Herring in You Nazty Spy also played Sherri in Three Sappy People. That was the funniest thing as both characters look different to me. They're both pretty, but they don't look the same to me. I guess it's because she played a crazy woman in Three Sappy People. Oh and guess how I found that out. I found that out through this site. I clicked on Lorna Gray on the Three Sappy People episode page and I saw all the roles she played.
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I'd like to point out that I notified the DVD Talk review of incorrectly spelling "Rockin' Thru the Rockies" as "Rockin' Through the Rockies", as well as the false statement of its first time being on DVD (it was on the Healthy, Wealthy & Dumb compilation disc).
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Volume 3 review from Home Theater Forum.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/275596-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-volume-three-1940-1942-a.html
I really enjoyed the review from DVDBeaver, they've always got nice reviews.
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Hey False Alarms:
You may want to add the link to my reviews to all 3 volumes in your thread....as I receive these sets very early, it appears that my reviews are the earliest published and I've been told that they are informative and helpful.
WOW!! I'm gone for a few days and WWIV erupts..I can't believe all of the hoo-ha!!
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WOW!! I'm gone for a few days and WWIV erupts..I can't believe all of the hoo-ha!!
Yeah, I know. I described the DVD Talk review as "vague" and a newbie, Shempyshine, couldn't get over as to why I would use that kind of word. I'll try to refrain from such language in the future to avoid future controversy.
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Well, it looks like Shempyshine is gone. I tried sending him a PM to try to work something out, but it didn't go through because his account is marked for deletion. I probably shouldn't have done so, but this issue has been bothering me. While his posts do seem like he was causing trouble, that may not have been his intent. He probably just used a strong tone in his post without realizing it. Anyways, I'm hoping I can be careful with the way I handle things in the future.
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I know. You have no idea how much I enjoy posting here, but then we have newbies come over and start trouble. What makes it even more troublesome is that these people make it look like I'm the bad guy. They even leave and make me look like this jerk that chases people away.
I know people like falsealarms was looking forward to my review of Volume 3, but I think I may pass as it may just cause more problems and controversy. It's all for the best. I may post some screenshots though if I'm in the mood.
I'd still like to see you post a review of Vol 3 X, its nice to hear from people like you and stooged and what
they think of the new sets.
But if you dont want to I understand why. But def post some screenshots so we can compare the restorations
to previous prints.
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Comparative shots of things like "Plumbling ..." and "... World's A Stooge" would be especially interesting. Those two had subpar quality on earlier releasses.
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Comparative shots of things like "Plumbling ..." and "... World's A Stooge" would be especially interesting. Those two had subpar quality on earlier releasses.
Right on False, those two are prime examples of sub-standard prints in previous releases.
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I was just about to say that I sold my "Curly Classics" DVD and won't be able to provide a comparison screenshot of A Plumbing We Will Go. But I just remembered that I still have the bootleg set and that short was ripped from that DVD, so I will be able to give a screenshot of that short after all. ;D
I'm slowly starting to get rid of my themed DVD collection now while they still have some value because once all the volumes are released, no one is going to want to buy the older DVDs. I even sold two of the colorized DVDs I had, which are "Goofs on the Loose" and "Stooges On The Run."
Before I post the screenshots, I might try to find a website where I can post all the pictures on one page. On Volumes 1 and 2, I just uploaded the picture on Photobucket and posted them here as links. But I think this time, it would be more fun to have all the pictures on one page, like what DVD Beaver does (especially if they're comparison shots).
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The DVD Talk Guy PMed me thanking him for the correction? Wow.
I might be able to do a comparison of "A-Plumbing..." when I get the new set. I still have the Curly Classics DVD.
And x, I love you reviews!
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The DVD Talk Guy PMed me thanking him for the correction? Wow.
I might be able to do a comparison of "A-Plumbing..." when I get the new set. I still have the Curly Classics DVD.
And x, I love you reviews!
Like I said before, I still have the bootleg set. I won't sell that as I'll just get arrested. But on that set, that short was ripped from the Curly Classics DVD, so I can still do the screenshots. I was just saying before that I almost thought I won't be able to, but then suddenly realized that I can.
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I was just thinking about these screen shot comparisons. What if, as a cross promotion for the DVD's, there were screen shot comparisons on each of the episode pages. You know, showing the difference between the older home video releases and the new remasters. That way, if someone was looking up an episode, they could see that the previous release is outdated and the new release has better video quality. And they can click on the link and buy the DVD from Amazon. What do ya'll think?
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I read this comment on the Home Theater Forum review but i wasnt sure if it needed its own thread or what section to post it here, so i'll put it here in the review thread since it links you write to that post.
I read something to the effect (call it a rumor, I guess) that the final set would be the 1958 shorts, plus the two from 1959 and "Have Rocket, Will Travel" as a bonus. Then there also will be a box set of "the sixties features" (which makes sense if the lone 1959 feature is on another release).
Post number 21.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/275596-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-volume-three-1940-1942-a.html
What do you guys make of that if its true?
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Well, if that's the case, then we'll have another crossover set. Volume 8: 1955-1957 will cross over from Shemp to Joe. But then, Volume 9 would cross over from Joe to Curly-Joe. Hmm. Very interesting. I'm sure they will be awesome.
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I read this comment on the Home Theater Forum review but i wasnt sure if it needed its own thread or what section to post it here, so i'll put it here in the review thread since it links you write to that post.
I read something to the effect (call it a rumor, I guess) that the final set would be the 1958 shorts, plus the two from 1959 and "Have Rocket, Will Travel" as a bonus. Then there also will be a box set of "the sixties features" (which makes sense if the lone 1959 feature is on another release).
Post number 21.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/275596-htf-dvd-review-three-stooges-collection-volume-three-1940-1942-a.html
What do you guys make of that if its true?
If that's a rumor, it makes a lot of sense to me. Volume 8 might contain 24 episodes from 1955-1957 (Shemp and Joe). Volume 9 might contain years 1958-1959 (Joe and Curly-Joe). It will contain 8 episodes plus one feature film. In my opinion, I think that's a pretty good idea. Though, it may not be such a great idea for you people who don't want the Curly-Joe features.
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If that's a rumor, it makes a lot of sense to me. Volume 8 might contain 24 episodes from 1955-1956 (Shemp and Joe). Volume 9 might contain year 1959 (Joe and Curly-Joe). It will contain 8 episodes plus one feature film. In my opinion, I think that's a pretty good idea. Though, it may not be such a great idea for you people who don't want the Curly-Joe features.
I guess it would work to have all of the Columbia films "starring" the Three Stooges. With the way they're doing the films, if Volume 9 has "Have Rocket Will Travel," then Volume 10 could have the other 4 features. They can do two features on each disc and have a 2-disc set. We would have everything from "Woman Haters" to "The Outlaws Is Coming." I can go along with that.
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That sounds like the most plausible option; after all, why wouldn't those fans who are going to go as far as to get every short including the Bessers not want the Derita features?
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That sounds like the most plausible option; after all, why wouldn't those fans who are going to go as far as to get every short including the Bessers not want the Derita features?
What makes that a good idea too is that Sony never released "Have Rocket Will Travel" but has released the others. Since there are some people who bought the other four previously released DeRita features on DVD, nobody has to double-dip on those. Assuming it will only contain the last 4 movies, then the last volume will just be optional for some people.
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What makes that a good idea too is that Sony never released "Have Rocket Will Travel" but has released the others. Since there are some people who bought the other four previously released DeRita features on DVD, nobody has to double-dip on those. Assuming it will only contain the last 4 movies, then the last volume will just be optional for some people.
Bingo x. I own the "other 4" DeRita features previously released on DVD. But Sony has yet to release HRWT on DVD, though they released it years ago on VHS, and though they have released the other 4 films to DVD. I'm still not sure why they put the other 4 out, but not HRWT. When I emailed Mike Schlesinger at Sony, I mentioned that--I believe it was Hammond Eggar--someone posted the email they received from Mike here on the forum. In it he mentions a "box set" of the movies may be done after the shorts are finished. I asked if HRWT could be made available separately for those who have already purchased the other 4. He said it was a little early to give an answer, but he would look into it. It's great having an individual on the inside, who is willing to converse with us fans over these issues.
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Bingo x. I own the "other 4" DeRita features previously released on DVD. But Sony has yet to release HRWT on DVD, though they released it years ago on VHS, and though they have released the other 4 films to DVD. I'm still not sure why they put the other 4 out, but not HRWT. When I emailed Mike Schlesinger at Sony, I mentioned that--I believe it was Hammond Eggar--someone posted the email they received from Mike here on the forum. In it he mentions a "box set" of the movies may be done after the shorts are finished. I asked if HRWT could be made available separately for those who have already purchased the other 4. He said it was a little early to give an answer, but he would look into it. It's great having an individual on the inside, who is willing to converse with us fans over these issues.
While some people may find the DeRita films nauseating, I actually thought "Have Rocket, Will Travel" wasn't bad. There were some funny parts of the movie. The one DeRita movie I can't stand is "Three Stooges Meet Hercules." Some people actually liked that one, but I thought it was awful. But the others are watchable. At least to me, they are. ;D
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While some people may find the DeRita films nauseating, I actually thought "Have Rocket, Will Travel" wasn't bad. There were some funny parts of the movie. The one DeRita movie I can't stand is "Three Stooges Meet Hercules." Some people actually liked that one, but I thought it was awful. But the others are watchable. At least to me, they are. ;D
I do not mind the DeRita films. And even owning the movies on DVD, if it was $19.99 for the set I would not mind picking them all up (again). But I would also have to say "Three Stooges Meet Hercules" is way better then "Snow White and The Three Stooges." What a TechniColor Terror!
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I do not mind the DeRita films. And even owning the movies on DVD, if it was $19.99 for the set I would not mind picking them all up (again). But I would also have to say "Three Stooges Meet Hercules" is way better then "Snow White and The Three Stooges." What a TechniColor Terror!
I agree. "Hercules" is better suited to the Stooges comedy style. As for "Snow White," it depends on the audience. My kids love it. It's the Stooges, it's in color and it has a fairy tale story to it. It works on that level.
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Updated to include a review of the volume 5 Charlie Chan set which includes Murder in New York ... which includes Shemp in a small role.
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DVD Town has a review of Volume 4: http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/three-stooges-collection-the-volume-four-1943-45/6308
I hate to be critical, but it isn't that great of a great review. The video and audio review are the exact same as the previous reviews. It would've been nice if he would've said something exclusive to this volume, like how "Micro-Phonies" looked.
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DVD Town has a review of Volume 4: http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/three-stooges-collection-the-volume-four-1943-45/6308
I hate to be critical, but it isn't that great of a great review. The video and audio review are the exact same as the previous reviews. It would've been nice if he would've said something exclusive to this volume, like how "Micro-Phonies" looked.
Wow, that's early. I wouldn't have been looking for vol 4 reviews for at least another week.
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Wow, that's early. I wouldn't have been looking for vol 4 reviews for at least another week.
Yeah, I started looking early because I'm very anxious to see what people have to say about "Micro-Phonies." ;D
It's a shame that I have two midterms and a presentation to do for school before October 7th. So I have to worry about those first.
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Added HTF's Vol 4 review. Review takes a close look at the quality of IDIOTS DELUXE.
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Interesting. The guy is picking on S&C. This is what he said:
There has been some discussion about a review posted on another site which claims that “Idiots Deluxe” is “riddled with spots, debris, lines, scratches…” However, I would be interested to know that reviewer’s definition of “riddled.” While it is true that the transfer of “Idiots Deluxe” is not pristine, it still looks pretty good.
Again, there has been some discussion about claims that the audio for “Crash Goes the Hash” is sub-par. I have no idea what that reviewer is talking about. I listened to the audio for that short twice, and it sounds fine to me. I also compared it to the audio on the DVD Stooges at Work, and I could not discern any significant difference. Perhaps the reviewer had a defective disc? I invite readers to do your own comparisons and let me know if you hear problems which I am unable to detect.
I seriously doubt that a defective disc is the issue here. When a DVD is defective, it would skip, freeze, or not play at all. That's all. Maybe something was wrong with S&C's speakers or something. Or maybe the audio for that short had some minor flaw to it that he noticed just now on this new set. So, I guess maybe the quality on those two shorts aren't bad after all. I'll let everyone know on Tuesday when I get my copy. ;D
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Like everything in life, everyone has their own opinion on things. If you read my review and the one from HTF, you'll notice that many of the sentiments I wrote are reiterated by their reviewer. I stand by my review. I never said that "Idiots" was unwatchable, but compared to all other titles, this one stands out like a sore thumb quality wise. I feel that it is riddled with spots and blemishes throughout the short.
As for "Crash", I do feel the audio is not on par with the previous release of that short. It's not inaudible (I never said it was), but is weaker to my ears and I listened to all 4 volumes on the same equipment. My ears notice a difference. So, there you go.
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Like everything in life, everyone has their own opinion on things. If you read my review and the one from HTF, you'll notice that many of the sentiments I wrote are reiterated by their reviewer. I stand by my review. I never said that "Idiots" was unwatchable, but compared to all other titles, this one stands out like a sore thumb quality wise. I feel that it is riddled with spots and blemishes throughout the short.
As for "Crash", I do feel the audio is not on par with the previous release of that short. It's not inaudible (I never said it was), but is weaker to my ears and I listened to all 4 volumes on the same equipment. My ears notice a difference. So, there you go.
I never said you were lying. We always appreciate your review. From your reviews from the previous volumes, I know that you always speak the truth. Each person notices things more than others, so that could be the case here. Like I said, when I get my copy on Tuesday, I'll let everyone know what I think. Perhaps, a third opinion will help clear this issue up.
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Hey X, I never said you were lying. The other reviewer is certainly entitled to his opinion. I just don't agree with his on this matter, and he obviously doesn't agree with mine.
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Added a review from Collider for vol 4 ... while not much of a review, it does attempt to generate some discussion with quotes like:
"If the Three Stooges were the Beatles, then this set would be their “Sgt. Pepper”. This set reflects Larry, Moe and Curly at their creative peak, and it shows."
Do people here buy that - that 1943-1945 is the Stooges' "creative peak" ?
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I certainly don't! Add that to the error in her mentioning Larry as the world's worst cross dresser in "They Stooge To Conga". I believe she was referring to the short "Higher Than A Kite."
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I wonder if DVD Beaver plans on writing a review. I always love their screenshots.
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I wonder if DVD Beaver plans on writing a review. I always love their screenshots.
From the guy who runs DVD Beaver: "You know I’d love to, but I’m just swamped with other stuff to cover right now. Maybe when things slow down – I’ve only watched a few shorts on it so far – and it seems as good as the previous ones."
DVD Talk is supposedly getting a review up soon. A different reviewer this time as the usual one is on vacation.
I hope you do another one of your reviews comparing quality.
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From the guy who runs DVD Beaver: "You know I’d love to, but I’m just swamped with other stuff to cover right now. Maybe when things slow down – I’ve only watched a few shorts on it so far – and it seems as good as the previous ones."
DVD Talk is supposedly getting a review up soon. A different reviewer this time as the usual one is on vacation.
I hope you do another one of your reviews comparing quality.
What "other stuff" could possibly be more important than the stooges? ;D
Only joking! Since DVD Beaver isn't going to review this DVD, I may decide to write one up this time.
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Updated reviews to include a detailed one from DVD Talk - check out the pic of Micro Phonies in the review.
Also of note from the review:
"In the opening short, They Stooge to Conga, there's a few frames missing from a bit where Moe hits Curly in the mouth with a hammer. Dizzy Detectives looked a little rough in spots, as far as excessive grain (all the shorts, to one degree or another, have noticeable grain). And very curiously, Back From the Front and Higher Than a Kite have what I can only assume are compression issues where some of the blacks go green (in Higher just in one brief shot, but in Back for several long ones onboard the ship). This didn't occur with any of the other shorts, which look for the most part, quite good, with super-sharp pictures, good gray scales, and an agreeably bright image."
He's probably paying more attention to detail than I am. I didn't notice some of those things, such as the compression issues, but I'll go with him.
However, I do agree that DIZZY looked worse than anticipated - but by no means "bad" and still acceptable. But, from the handful or so that I've watched, things do look good. Micro Phonies looks better than ever. Three Little Twirps looked great - that stood out.
Will be interesting to see some comparison shots.
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Updated reviews to include a detailed one from DVD Talk - check out the pic of Micro Phonies in the review.
Also of note from the review:
"In the opening short, They Stooge to Conga, there's a few frames missing from a bit where Moe hits Curly in the mouth with a hammer. Dizzy Detectives looked a little rough in spots, as far as excessive grain (all the shorts, to one degree or another, have noticeable grain). And very curiously, Back From the Front and Higher Than a Kite have what I can only assume are compression issues where some of the blacks go green (in Higher just in one brief shot, but in Back for several long ones onboard the ship). This didn't occur with any of the other shorts, which look for the most part, quite good, with super-sharp pictures, good gray scales, and an agreeably bright image."
He's probably paying more attention to detail than I am. I didn't notice some of those things, such as the compression issues, but I'll go with him.
However, I do agree that DIZZY looked worse than anticipated - but by no means "bad" and still acceptable. But, from the handful or so that I've watched, things do look good. Micro Phonies looks better than ever. Three Little Twirps looked great - that stood out.
Will be interesting to see some comparison shots.
:o Whoa! They have a screenshot of "Micro-Phonies." It looks GREAT!!! I can't wait to get this set.
BTW- That frame in Conga was always missing. So, it's not Sony's fault.
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I was impressed by that guy's entire review - it's the best one I've seen for vol 4 so far.
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DVD Verdict review added.
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DVD Verdict review added.
Not a bad review. I agree with him on "Idiots Deluxe." It looks exactly like the one on the older DVD release. It seems like Sony did forget to clean that up.
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Not a bad review. I agree with him on "Idiots Deluxe." It looks exactly like the one on the older DVD release. It seems like Sony did forget to clean that up.
Yeah, good review from DVD Verdict there. Hmm, either they somehow forget to do Idiots or thats as best tehy can make it. I'd have to
bet money on the former, if I was a betting man.
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Here is my review of Volume Three:
http://www.roguecinema.com/article1494.html
I will have Volume Four in the November issue of this same site. I'll post the link once it's up.
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Here is my volume 4 review
http://www.roguecinema.com/article-1517--0-0.html
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Well, I guess Goebbels and Goering WERE Hitler's minions.... :D As for "You Natzy Spy" being off beat and dated, I agree and disagree. When I watch it now, it doesn't seem dated at all, but 20 years ago, there were a lot of little jokes, such as "The Boy's From Syracuse", that I just didn't get until I delved deeper into my music studies.
"Hoi Polloi" just stands up as one of the greatest shorts I have ever seen, from ANY comedy team. I mean, the sets are gorgeous, (okay, the set at the beginning), and the party scenes are just wonderfully filmed. It just shows that in the 30s, how lavish things could be--and oddly enough, when you look at some of the shorts of the late Shemp and Joe eras, you notice how well they were filmed and how elegant they look (Gypped in the Penthouse and Quiz Whizz come to mind).
Lest I sound like a horrible Stooge fan, I for one, cannot wait until the Joe era. For years, I've been looking at my rapidly disintergrating videotapes (from KPLR-St. Louis, the Stooges' major stops), with the previews at the beginning, and I'm thinking that those won't be added, which isn't a major disappointment, but for some reason I enjoyed them.
I know what I'm getting myself for Christmas! (Or for Festivus!)
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4th Stooge, out of all the years I've been posting on this board, your comments are the first I've ever seen about art direction in a Stooge film. That's interesting, because I've never looked at Stooge films from that angle, but I have more so for old horror movies (i.e. Universal, Hammer, etc.).
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I don't know--you watch the shorts soooo many times that you start noticing how the sets looked, how the lighting was, etc. Most of this came about because of an interview of Larry's I saw a long time ago, when he was rather bitter that they never had any sets built for them, but used the sets that were already used in films. Have a train set? Train short. Castle set? Better believe someone's going to be putting on some armor. While I understand his frustration, he seemed to forget that they cranked those shorts out like they cranked out B movies. Luckily, the hectic pace didn't hurt the Stooges (except "Gold Raiders"--even I'm a better actor than that guy!)
Another short that was well-lit and had a surprisingly gorgeous opening was "Three Little Beers," when the fellows go to the club to get their "press badges." And even though it wasn't "lit" (I don't know the technical terms..) as well as earlier shorts, "You Nazty Spy!" works on so many levels--the sets, the lighting of Ms. Gray, the dream sequence where they were being roasted, all looked pretty darn good. And it was a Jules White short! (That's a comment to some fans who feel that he may not have been the best director for the Stooges....and sometimes he wasn't.)
Of course, we also have examples of lighting and sets were just asstastic. "Booby Dupes," anyone? Camera placement? "Shot in the Frontier." How much more would it have cost to actually have the camera in the right damn place--I'm pretty sure Moe was on his mark.
Okay, I've ranted enough about technical stuff. Any more, and I'll sound like an obsessive Stooge fan. :D
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Added some nice reviews for volumes 1 and 4. Never know when something pops up on Google.
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http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/dvd-three-stooges-collection-the-volume-five-1946-48/6823 has a revie of volume 5
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http://www.dvdtown.com/reviews/dvd-three-stooges-collection-the-volume-five-1946-48/6823 has a revie of volume 5
Thanks for the heads-up!
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http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36678/three-stooges-collection-volume-five-1946-1948-the/
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I will likely wait to order these when my budget clears up! it is great to hear that the Stooges are still breaking records in sales more than 30 years after the act was disbanded.
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The article title is misleading... this favorable review of Volume 5 appeared in the March 27 Newark (NJ) Star-Ledger. It's also posted at the Ledger's nj.com site, which serves a syndicate of papers in NJ and NE Pennsylvania, so it appears/will appear in other regional papers too.
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Added a review from a site called Blog Critics... quite extensive.
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Here is my review of Volume Five
http://www.roguecinema.com/article1658.html
JN
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The first vol 6 review rolls in.
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Vol 6 isn't the only Stooge DVD release next week. Swing Parade of 1946 is being re-released and I posted a few under the "other" section.
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I was reading DVDTown's review and this little sentence caught my eye: "Though they're presented in 1.33:1 aspect ratio, they look pretty good stretched to fill out a 16x9 screen."
1.33:1 content ALWAYS looks distorted when stretched on a widescreen TV. This is why I have my DVD player set up to automatically place black bars on sides of my widescreen TV when I'm watching 1.33:1 content. So, I thought that was a silly little sentence.
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I have a widescreen TV and I have my DVD player set to automatically stretch out full-framed content. If you didn't know any better, you wouldn't know the difference. Different DVD players might be better than others at stretching content.
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I have a widescreen TV and I have my DVD player set to automatically stretch out full-framed content.
I wish I could do that as I heard that LCDs can get image retention when watching content with black bars for a long time. I had my widescreen TV for 6 months already and haven't had that problem. But I really would like to stretch the content to be on the safe side, but I can never stand it. It even drives me crazy when HD channels like TBS and TNT do it. I guess some of us notice it more than others.
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News flashes:
And in the "Wouldn't You Just Know It?!" dept., one of the most anticipated titles, Slaphappy Sleuths, happens to be the only one on this set with clipped audio at the start.
The Ghost Talks looks just fine, though. Damage to the film stock (those vertical rips) has been digitally mended for a nice, smooth presentation.
And, say goodbye to those silent Columbia logos at the start of each film. They're phased out by the end of this set.
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand this "clipped audio" phenomenon? I've noticed anything wrong with the audio.
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand this "clipped audio" phenomenon? I've noticed anything wrong with the audio.
Think of it this way: The Stooges' theme should start out, "Three-Blind-Mice. Three-Blind-Mice.." and go on from there. Instead, we get something like, "..lind-Mice. Three-Blind-Mice.."
That's all. It's just a little sloppy and unnecessary. To kinda skew the perspective, imagine how the suits at Sony might feel if (horrors!) their corporate branding jingle had some notes missing!
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And in the "Wouldn't You Just Know It?!" dept., one of the most anticipated titles, Slaphappy Sleuths, happens to be the only one on this set with clipped audio at the start.
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this "clipped audio" phenomenon? I've noticed anything wrong with the audio.
No, you're not alone; I've never really noticed anything either. I guess I just don't pay enough attention. I'll have to see if I can spot it when I watch Slaphappy Sleuths.
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I think the clipped audio means that the music kinda fades up on the first second of the theme, not a punchy start like most of the shorts on the set.
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The last two volumes didn't have any clipped audio at all. I'm surprised they're back again. I'll look out for "Slaphappy Sleuths" when I receive my set.
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As usual I was as giddy as a school girl when the brown clad santa delivered my set. The only thing wrong is the clipped audio which I would not have noticed without it being pointed out to me. Top notch keep it up sony!
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Wow! My set shipped yesterday and it just arrived today. And this is free shipping too. Now that's what I call Super Soivice! Good work, Amazon!
I checked Slaphappy Sleuths. Yeah, the audio is clipped badly, but it's no biggie.
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DVD Talk's review is up. Theirs is usually the best read.
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Here is my review of Vol 6 at the Rogue Cinema site:
http://www.roguecinema.com/article-1757--0-0.html
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DVD Talk's V 7 review was finally posted and I included it on the first page of this thread.... their reviews, often done by a Stuart Galbraith, are consistently the best ones to read.
GOOF ON THE ROOF is one of the highest rated shorts here, but don't count the reviewer as a fan -
"Though definitely released in Vitascope, Columbia's 1.85:1 cropped widescreen process, this short's super-tight compositions suggest it may have been shot for 1.37:1 and filmed in late-1952 or early-'53, long before its December 1953 release. In any case, despite the complete absence of stock footage and tried-and-true home destruction gags, this dreary short is a long way from the Stooges' classic shorts. Ironically, the story concerns the trio's disastrous efforts to install a friend's television set and antenna. This wasn't the first Stooge short to feature a television, but it was the first to do so in the wake of the new medium's impact on the film industry. The sight gags are badly executed in this one; when Larry's stunt double is funnier than Larry, something ain't right. It was also the last original short penned by Clyde Bruckman, one of screen comedy's brightest gag men, who in 1955 borrowed a pistol from his pal Buster Keaton, drove to a Santa Monica restaurant, and shot himself in the restroom. (* 1/2)"
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Here is my review of volume 7 on the Rogue Cinema site:
http://www.roguecinema.com/article1968.html
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DVD Talk's V 7 review was finally posted and I included it on the first page of this thread.... their reviews, often done by a Stuart Galbraith, are consistently the best ones to read.
I like that Stuart offers such a thorough short-by-short review. That was indeed Emil Sitka's voice and him in the gorilla suit in Bubble Trouble. Sitka would do the voice for fans in later years, and confirmed that it was indeed him. He frequently did his own stunt work.
JN
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Review added for DR DEATH: SEEKER OF SOULS under "other."
From the review, a large pic from Moe's short cameo in the film -
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On Volume 3, I noticed that in "A Plumbing We Will Go," the scene where the policeman is chasing the boys, who are fleeing in the "Joe the Plumber" truck, seems to end too abruptly, with the policeman falling into the wet cement mix, sitting up and saying "What the . . ?!" I thus dug out the episode from my 18-yr old VHS copy recorded from a television broadcast, and discovered that the TV version does indeed contain a slightly longer version of that scene, continuing for a few more seconds after the DVD's scene ends, with the policeman leaning back down, sitting back up, and saying another "What the . . .?!" before the scene ends. Certainly an omission of no substance, but it's odd that the DVD omits material included in the TV version.
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On Volume 3, I noticed that in "A Plumbing We Will Go," the scene where the policeman is chasing the boys, who are fleeing in the "Joe the Plumber" truck, seems to end too abruptly, with the policeman falling into the wet cement mix, sitting up and saying "What the . . ?!" I thus dug out the episode from my 18-yr old VHS copy recorded from a television broadcast, and discovered that the TV version does indeed contain a slightly longer version of that scene, continuing for a few more seconds after the DVD's scene ends, with the policeman leaning back down, sitting back up, and saying another "What the . . .?!" before the scene ends. Certainly an omission of no substance, but it's odd that the DVD omits material included in the TV version.
I’m going to check that tonight when I get home. I always remembered this short having two “What the….” in it when the policeman falls in the cement. I’m sure I would’ve definitely spotted it if there was such an edit. I’ll check tonight and confirm.
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I'm back to confirm. No such edit on my copy. The policeman says "What the.." twice on my Vol. 3 DVD. ???
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I have no other copies to go off of, but what I believe the OP is stating is the Volume 3 DVD shaves off a second or two after the officer says "What the...?!", by abruptly changing scenes whereas the broadcast version from the 80s has a bit more time between the end of "What the...?!" and the next scene.
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I have no other copies to go off of, but what I believe the OP is stating is the Volume 3 DVD shaves off a second or two after the officer says "What the...?!", by abruptly changing scenes whereas the broadcast version from the 80s has a bit more time between the end of "What the...?!" and the next scene.
But every copy I've watched has that abrupt change right after the policeman says the second "What the-." I have an old 1980 VHS copy that my father had, I've seen this many times on TV (TBS, Family Channel, and AMC), and I've watched this on Curly Classics DVD and now the Volume 3 DVD. All are the same.
I'm so confused.
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OP Reporting Back -- Very odd. I played the DVD Vol.3 scene again from "A Plumbing," and this time what played was the complete scene of the policeman in the cement mix, with two "What the" statements. It was a different player than the one I played the DVD on the first time, when the scene cut off early (after the first "What the"), so maybe that explains it. Turns out nothing is missing from the DVD version and I was complaining about something that wasn't there. Sorry for any wasted time
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Sounds like your DVD skipped. Check the bottom of your disc and clean off any smudge or dirt.
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Continuing to add reviews for VOL 8, most recently DVD Talk's.
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Here's a link to a short review I just found:
http://blog.wimgo.com/projections/2010/06/01/under-the-radar-dvd-of-the-week-three-stooges-collection-vol-8-1955-1959/
For duty and humanity,
JohnH aka QuinceHead
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and other:
http://www.quarter-four.com/forum/showthread.php?p=32895#post32895
For duty and humanity,
JohnH aka QuinceHead
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and a third:
http://mon.vipublog.com/leah9171263/tag/vol-8-1955-1959-discount/
Since these are blog reviews, I'm not sure if they "count" or not, but here's the info just the same.
For duty and humanity,
JohnH aka QuinceHead
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Newark (NJ) Star Ledger
6/18/10 Review of Volume 8 (http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2010/06/the_three_stooges_collection_v.html)
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Thanks for these links.
The master list has been updated and includes a second review from DVD Talk and it's the better of the two linked.
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Please take a look at my review of the Ultimate Collection here: http://seanfergusonscorneroftheuniverse.blogspot.com/2012/06/three-stooges-ultimate-collection-dvd.html
Thanks!
Sean
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For those interested, a Blu-Ray review of the 2012 film via HTF: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/322385/the-three-stooges-blu-ray-review
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Please take a look at my review of the Ultimate Collection here: http://seanfergusonscorneroftheuniverse.blogspot.com/2012/06/three-stooges-ultimate-collection-dvd.html
Thanks!
Sean
Nice review. Thanks for sharing! And welcome to the site!
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Thanks Xraffle! I'm glad you liked it and I appreciate your taking the time to let me know!
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Added three reviews of the Rare Treasures set that I don't remember seeing before. The DVD Drive In and the Cinema Sentries reviews are probably worth checking out first.
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Head's up: Sony's Ultimate Collection is on sale right now on Amazon for $29.99. I just bought my own set yesterday!
http://www.amazon.com/The-Three-Stooges-Ultimate-Collection/dp/B006WN5W5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386445934&sr=8-1&keywords=three+stooges+collection
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Didn't know where to put this but I bought the Ultimate Collection at Best Buy on Friday for $29.99. Great price for so many DVDs! As I dug into the box, I noticed something interesting with Vol. 7.
The 3D Shorts are no longer present.
I wanted to test the 3D right away so that was the first box I opened up. I immediately noticed that the 3D glasses were missing. I figured they must have forgotten them or something. So I put the DVD into the player and waited for it to boot up. I was sad to discover that there is no 3D option for "Spooks" or "Pardon My Backfire." Just the 2D versions. I looked on the packaging of the Ultimate Collection and Vol. 7 and there is no mention of 3D at all.
Comparing the wording on the back of my Vol. 7 box to one posted on DVD Empire, they omit any mention of the 3D Shorts on my version. It looks like Sony made a second printing that leaves off the 3D.
I'm an extremely disappointed by this as I now have to track down the original release to get the shorts and 3D glasses. Is there someone at Sony Home Entertainment I could email about this? Not much they can do as they removed any mention of 3D so it's not bait and switch but I'd like to at least voice my disappointment.
Thank you and beware.
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...The 3D Shorts are no longer present.
I'm an extremely disappointed by this as I now have to track down the original release to get the shorts and 3D glasses. Is there someone at Sony Home Entertainment I could email about this? Not much they can do as they removed any mention of 3D so it's not bait and switch but I'd like to at least voice my disappointment.
Thank you and beware.
Hmmm.... Could be for the best, the3d ain't that good! Since changes are being made to the discs, I guess there's no chance they've fixed some of the minor glitches in other sets along the way? Picture glitch in Pain in the Pullman, "Give/glasses" audio glitch from Horses' Collars, speed the audio back up at the end of Hot Scots (the sped up fighting bit)?
Have you checked the files on the dvd to see if the 3d shorts are still there, just not accessible thru the menu? If you check, what's the date on the vob files?
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Didn't know where to put this but I bought the Ultimate Collection at Best Buy on Friday for $29.99. Great price for so many DVDs! As I dug into the box, I noticed something interesting with Vol. 7.
The 3D Shorts are no longer present.
I wanted to test the 3D right away so that was the first box I opened up. I immediately noticed that the 3D glasses were missing. I figured they must have forgotten them or something. So I put the DVD into the player and waited for it to boot up. I was sad to discover that there is no 3D option for "Spooks" or "Pardon My Backfire." Just the 2D versions. I looked on the packaging of the Ultimate Collection and Vol. 7 and there is no mention of 3D at all.
Comparing the wording on the back of my Vol. 7 box to one posted on DVD Empire, they omit any mention of the 3D Shorts on my version. It looks like Sony made a second printing that leaves off the 3D.
I'm an extremely disappointed by this as I now have to track down the original release to get the shorts and 3D glasses. Is there someone at Sony Home Entertainment I could email about this? Not much they can do as they removed any mention of 3D so it's not bait and switch but I'd like to at least voice my disappointment.
Thank you and beware.
Does it say "2D + 3D" next to those two episodes on the back cover?
Another thing.... if Sony changed the DVD and omitted the 3D versions, I wonder if cropping issue has been fixed on GOOF ON THE ROOF?
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Another thing.... if Sony changed the DVD and omitted the 3D versions, I wonder if cropping issue has been fixed on GOOF ON THE ROOF?
Oh, yeah! I forgot about that! Wouldn't that be nice, huh?
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Have you checked the files on the dvd to see if the 3d shorts are still there, just not accessible thru the menu? If you check, what's the date on the vob files?
I have not. I'm always leary of putting a DVD into my laptop. I'm afraid I'll scratch it.
Does it say "2D + 3D" next to those two episodes on the back cover?
Nope. No mention of 3D at all anywhere on the Vol. 7 packaging.
Another thing.... if Sony changed the DVD and omitted the 3D versions, I wonder if cropping issue has been fixed on GOOF ON THE ROOF?
I can take a peek. What am I looking for exactly?
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I can take a peek. What am I looking for exactly?
See if it is presented full-screen 4x3 ratio or widescreen 16x9. The widescreen version cut off a little too much as you can see:
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This could be fixed by re-matting the image for more headroom or just opening up the full frame like the older shorts.
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See if it is presented full-screen 4x3 ratio or widescreen 16x9. The widescreen version cut off a little too much as you can see:
This could be fixed by re-matting the image for more headroom or just opening up the full frame like the older shorts.
Okay. I'll take a gander when I get home tonight.
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Okay. I'll take a gander when I get home tonight.
Thanks. If this problem was fixed, I would be happy to buy this again...
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See if it is presented full-screen 4x3 ratio or widescreen 16x9. The widescreen version cut off a little too much as you can see:
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This could be fixed by re-matting the image for more headroom or just opening up the full frame like the older shorts.
Sorry for the delay. I just popped in the DVD and can confirm that a) the Short is widescreen (16x9) and b) it looks exactly like the picture above. Cropped a bit too much.
Onto finding an original copy now. Thanks for all the help.
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Master list updated with a review for the recent MGM shorts set:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/66812/classic-shorts-from-the-dream-factory-volume-3-featuring-howard-fine-and-howard-the-three-stooges/
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Here are some reviews for THE THREE STOOGES TRIPLE FEATURE Blu-ray Volumes 1 and 2:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Three-Stooges-Collection-Volume-One-Triple-Feature-Blu-ray/124956/
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Three-Stooges-Collection-Volume-Two-Triple-Feature-Blu-ray/124955/
CHEERS! [3stooges]
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Three Stooges Collection - Complete Set 1934-1959 DVD (17 Discs) Sony
Upon checking Amazon Reviews for Sony's recently reissued compact 17 DVD set (Sans the 2 Three Stooges Features, and 28 solo shorts!), I was mortified to discover Amazon tethered it to the 2014 Three Stooges 6 Movie Collection 2 DVD set by Millcreek! I mean, ARE YOU BLOODY KIDDING ME, AMAZON?!!?
As I've been unable to unearth any actual reviews, here's the Amazon link for what it's worth: https://www.amazon.com/Three-Stooges-Collection-1934-1959/dp/B01JZKX7P0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
SHEESH!!!! [pie]