"TED HEALY AND HIS STOOGES" DVD Documentary

Donaldson Books · **on:** December 13, 2004, 03:51:01 PM

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Three Stooges fans have been demanding it for decades, and now it's finally here -- the first-ever documentary chronicling the life and times of Stooge impresario Ted Healy! Available on DVD, "Ted Healy and His Stooges" brings you the true story behind the remarkable legend of The Three Stooges and the man who made it all possible.

Unlike other so-called Stooge "histories" and "documentaries," this program features never-before-revealed facts, humorous stories and anecdotes from the people who were there when it happened, all of whom were interviewed by the authors of "The Three Stooges: The Triumphs and Tragedies of The Most Popular Comedy Team of All Time." In addition to recently-filmed interviews, the documentary includes rare film clips, ultra-rare still photographs, and never-before-seen footage. You'll see Ted Healy at his funniest in scenes from such classic movies as "Reckless" (1935), "Varsity Show" (1937) and "Hollywood Hotel" (1938), as well as innumerable clips featuring Healy working alongside the legendary Stooge trio of Curly, Moe and Larry. Plus, there are new revelations about the circumstances surrounding the death of Ted Healy, as well as interviews with people who knew and worked with the Stoogemaster as far back as the 1920s.

Also included are film-clip appearances by such Healy co-stars as Thelma Todd, Wallace Beery, Fanny Brice, Milton Berle, George Burns, Gary Cooper, Joan Crawford, Spanky MacFarland, Clark Gable, Carole Lombard, Ben Turpin, Peter Lorre, Nat Pendleton, William Powell, Spencer Tracy, Jack Benny, Frank Fay, Patsy Kelly, Dick Powell, Rosemary Lane, Walter Catlett, Lola Lane, Sterling Holloway, Mabel Todd, Bonnie Bonnell, and the Marx Brothers, Groucho, Chico and Harpo.

This great new DVD also features a very special supplemental section with color images and mini-bios of all EIGHTEEN men who played one of Ted Healy's Three Stooges throughout his illustrious career on stage, in film and on radio. No Stooge collection is complete without this great new DVD "Ted Healy and His Stooges" from Donaldson Books. For more information visit www.stoogebook.com today!

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shemps#1 · **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2004, 07:53:31 PM

Just in case anyone was thinking of fattening this fuckwad's pockets, I present to you this tidbit from the stoogeworld.com message board where Donaldson posted the same thing.

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I talked to someone who saw a preview copy. There are no shorts, just excerpts. Just 1 disc, about an hour or so. Some Mousie Garner stuff and some other guys who claimed to be stooges, but all they did was work with Healy before he died. Rehashes that Forrester book from a couple years ago, and that was not worth the money. Unless Donaldson Books can give us more information, there is not enough to spend $29 on and $6 to mail.

I bought the "triumphs and tragedies" book when it first came out. It was probably the closest we will get to a Kitty Kelley bio on the Stooges, if you know what I mean. Definately not worth the $30, as I'm sure this DVD isn't.

Baggie · **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2004, 08:22:21 AM

Yeh I read the Stoogeworld board, and own the book, which I thought was pretty good, but this DVD sounds crap, and is just anoter way for someone to squeeze money out of Stooge fans.

3Stooges · **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2004, 11:45:31 AM

I read the Stooge Book. I enjoyed it. For anyone who didnt like the text content, at least it had a lot of cool pictures in it that I've never seen in other Stooge books.

locoboymakesgood · **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2004, 12:02:50 AM

Was gonna get this, but id rather spend my $30 on the Stooges: Men Behind the Mayhem DVD. No sale.

kinderscenen · **Reply #5 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:57:07 PM

So that's why "Donaldson Books" sounded so familiar. Hmmm. Not that I'm against anyone making a dishonest dollar, but damn! These are the folks that somehow managed to weave Mousie Garner throughout EVERY. SINGLE. BOOK. Now, one asks, if he was indeed that large a part of the "original" Stooges' history, then why did he receive nothing more than a mention of "he was totally unacceptable" in non-Forrester Bros. books?

Okay, back to the subject at hand. Any time anyone sells a DVD without mentioning how long it is....beware. Any time anyone says that they have "new information" about anything...beware. And 2 thumbs...something....for the publicity machine they're running over there.

Sunday

j.strubachinkoscow · **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2004, 01:09:03 PM

I agree with the other posters on this one.

Very funny story about Mike Conners. Not sure if anyone has taken a look at the 'celebrity' pictures on that website but I find it very disturbing that there are pictures of Mousie with some pretty hot women yet when there's an opportunity to take a pic of him in a hot tub, its with one of the authors who is planting one on Mousies cheek! I still wake up screaming!!

I agree with some of the other posters, many of those shots look to be taken in the middle of a 'What the hell am I doing' moment. Especially the one of an embalmed Dean Martin getting ready to 'discuss his work with the Stooges'. Doesn't look like Dean was in too good a shape to discuss anything that day and if you asked him, he probably would've said "Jerry, who?" Poor guy. (Come to think of, he probably would've said that earlier too).

Nothing against Mousie but IMO, that poor guy was exploited to sell books but hey, its all publicity right?

Nah...don't think I'll be shelling out any of my hard earned 'corn' (canned corn) on this disc either. My collection is complete enough without it.

Watts Dee Matter · **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2005, 07:11:40 AM

I would be very weary of what the dvd has to offer, it probably isn't worth the amount of money they are charging, and it is just another way to make some dough

EmailSitka · **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2006, 04:42:29 PM

Whatever happened to the website www.stoogebook.com run by Jeffrey Forrester? It is no longer available. It must have gone down the drain like his trashy Stooges book.

EmailSitka · **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2006, 04:57:08 PM

Does anyone know why Donaldson Books / Jeffrey Forrester, was banned from the message board? Despite the fact that the Forrester books are clearly rip-offs of other publications and his Ted Healy DVD scheme was something to squeeze money from fans, doesn' t he have a voice here, too?

Pilsner Panther · **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2006, 07:13:52 PM

Quote from: EmailSitka on January 22, 2006, 04:57:08 PM

Does anyone know why Donaldson Books / Jeffrey Forrester, was banned from the message board? Despite the fact that the Forrester books are clearly rip-offs of other publications and his Ted Healy DVD scheme was something to squeeze money from fans, doesn' t he have a voice here, too?

Take a look at the warning notice that was put at the bottom of his first post. I didn't do this particular banning, it was shemps#1, but I do agree with it. We hardly ever ban anyone straight off the bat here, we have a system of warning levels that gives the offender a chance to change his or her behavior. We're pretty easy-going, too; I can't even remember the last time I banned someone, but it was a year ago at least.

Since you're new here, I recommend that you read our Posting Guidelines and our FAQ, if you haven't already.

shemps#1 · **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2006, 03:11:24 AM

To understand why I threw Mr. Forrester out on his ass, one must know the complete backstory. It's been awhile, so bear with me:

Mr. Forrester is a business man who has popped up on these Stooge boards whenever he has had anything Stooge-related to sell, and that is all. He has never once contributed anything to the boards in anyway except free advertising for his crap (and I use the term "crap" VERY strongly). We have a policy that advertising on these message boards is not allowed. Now if someone who has some tenure here wanted to plug something I'm sure I would have have "looked the other way", "bent the rules" or any other cliche you can think of for "allowed it". Others have tried to plug their shit on this board before, and they too have been banned as soon as I caught them. It pisses me off to no end that these snake-oil salesmen think they can get free advertising here, and I will not tolerate it.

Add to that that around the time the last "book" (this term is used loosely) came out Mr. Forrester was called out on the carpet by two men whose Stooge knowledge I greatly respect in BeAStooge and Garystooge over at the Stoogeworld board. Mr. Forrester then threatened to press legal charges (!) against both Gary and Brent in a rather lengthy tirade, so I made the obvious decision to cut the head off of the snake as soon as it popped out it's hole here at threestooges.net.

The usual protocol for a thread such as this is to delete it as soon as possible, but I felt Mr. Forrester needed to be made an example of. Thank you for bringing it back up so that others who might have missed it the first time out can see it.

I stand by my decision even moreso today then I did when I first made it.

Pilsner Panther · **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2006, 03:49:28 AM

"Plugs" for Stooges products, that's really a complicated subject, in a way. I don't mind them at all if the product is of real value to the fans, like the Mackinac Media "Stooges, The Men Behind The Mayhem" DVD, which is very professionally produced, and contains a lot of material that's never or rarely been seen before, like the extended interviews with Lyla Fine Budnick and Nate Budnick, and the Stooges' Ed Wynn show appearance in a really sharp video transfer. Those, alone, are worth the price of the DVD, and I've given it a very positive review myself.

But poorly written books that are full of misinformation and badly edited, that's another matter. One of the reasons this site exists is so we veterans can give the younger Stooges fans some guidelines as to what's worthwhile reading/viewing and what's not, and we'll continue to do it.

I should add that threestooges.net is an indepedently maintained website by Dunrobin along with all of us chucklehead collaborators, and is not affiliated with any one publisher of books, tapes, or DVD's.

In other words, you can trust our opinions.

EmailSitka · **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2006, 08:19:15 AM

Thanks Guys for letting me know the truth about that Forrester guy. I was always suspicious of him. I hate to say it but his books ARE lousy.

FineBari3 · **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2006, 09:44:48 AM

Quote from: Pilsner Panther on January 24, 2006, 03:49:28 AM

I should add that threestooges.net is an indepedently maintained website by Dunrobin along with all of us chucklehead collaborators, and is not affiliated with any one publisher of books, tapes, or DVD's.

You forgot the most important one that threestooges.net is NOT affiliated with!

C3!

shemps#1 · **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2006, 02:18:12 PM

Quote from: Pilsner Panther on January 24, 2006, 03:49:28 AM

"Plugs" for Stooges products, that's really a complicated subject, in a way. I don't mind them at all if the product is of real value to the fans, like the Mackinac Media "Stooges, The Men Behind The Mayhem" DVD, which is very professionally produced, and contains a lot of material that's never or rarely been seen before, like the extended interviews with Lyla Fine Budnick and Nate Budnick, and the Stooges' Ed Wynn show appearance in a really sharp video transfer. Those, alone, are worth the price of the DVD, and I've given it a very positive review myself.

Perhaps I should clarify that a fan recommendation and a plug are two different things. If a fan purchases a book or DVD and then starts a thread recommending the product it is different than the producer of the product starting a thread which is basically a sales pitch and an attempt to get free advertising. Now if a fan recommends a product and the producer of the product decides to respond that is a different story.

Look at it this way, a fan recommendation is "word of mouth" while someone plugging their own product is a free commercial. Commercials usually cost a lot of money.

Pils & Rob: I will PM the both of you on this subject to decide together on a concrete format for such matters should they arise again.

Bangsmith · **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2006, 03:48:47 PM

Quote from: shemps#1 on January 24, 2006, 03:11:24 AM

To understand why I threw Mr. Forrester out on his ass, one must know the complete backstory. It's been awhile, so bear with me:

Mr. Forrester is a business man who has popped up on these Stooge boards whenever he has had anything Stooge-related to sell, and that is all. He has never once contributed anything to the boards in anyway except free advertising for his crap (and I use the term "crap" VERY strongly). We have a policy that advertising on these message boards is not allowed. Now if someone who has some tenure here wanted to plug something I'm sure I would have have "looked the other way", "bent the rules" or any other cliche you can think of for "allowed it". Others have tried to plug their shit on this board before, and they too have been banned as soon as I caught them. It pisses me off to no end that these snake-oil salesmen think they can get free advertising here, and I will not tolerate it.

Add to that that around the time the last "book" (this term is used loosely) came out Mr. Forrester was called out on the carpet by two men whose Stooge knowledge I greatly respect in BeAStooge and Garystooge over at the Stoogeworld board. Mr. Forrester then threatened to press legal charges (!) against both Gary and Brent in a rather lengthy tirade, so I made the obvious decision to cut the head off of the snake as soon as it popped out it's hole here at threestooges.net.

The usual protocol for a thread such as this is to delete it as soon as possible, but I felt Mr. Forrester needed to be made an example of. Thank you for bringing it back up so that others who might have missed it the first time out can see it.

I stand by my decision even moreso today then I did when I first made it.

It seems fitting that a money-grubber like Forrester would be associated with a Ted Healy DVD! Birds of a feather flock together, I suppose! One can guess that I'm no Ted Healy fan!!!!

Shemoeley Fine · **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2006, 09:20:51 PM

Bangsmith wrote <<< It seems fitting that a money-grubber like Forrester would be associated with a Ted Healy DVD! Birds of a feather flock together, I suppose! One can guess that I'm no Ted Healy fan!!!! >>>>

Welcome to the club, I am not a HEELy fan either, he is extremely over rated in my book. The Stooges made him and he knew it. He never made me even smile, much less chuckle or laugh. I have never understood why the boys stayed so long with Heely, then when they left him-returned! However it all turned out well for our favorite trio when they left for good.

S F

Giff me dat fill-em! · **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2006, 11:40:04 PM

There is no denying that Nash dealt Moe and his fellows a wicked set of punches, but one should never under estimate the contribution he gave to our boys. Healy set the formula the Stooges would follow their entire careers. This is the reason I use his "cartoon" face as an avatar - because he was such a cartoonish person when performing with the Stooges (believe it or not), even though he was suppose to be "the straight man" in the act. (and because [I believe] no one else will use Healy's face in this forum - so I have unauthorized "exclusive" rights to it)

FineBari3 · **Reply #19 on:** March 14, 2006, 08:27:32 AM

Quote from: Giff me dat fill-em! on March 13, 2006, 11:40:04 PM

There is no denying that Nash dealt Moe and his fellows a wicked set of punches, but one should never under estimate the contribution he gave to our boys. Healy set the formula the Stooges would follow their entire careers. This is the reason I use his "cartoon" face as an avatar - because he was such a cartoonish person when performing with the Stooges (believe it or not), even though he was suppose to be "the straight man" in the act. (and because [I believe] no one else will use Healy's face in this forum - so I have unauthorized "exclusive" rights to it)

It's also a cool Al Hirschfield drawing! (From a movie poster; I cant remember for which film).

Did you find the 'Nina' in the drawing?

Giff me dat fill-em! · **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2006, 11:16:06 AM

The movie is "The Big Idea" ... the movie poster can be viewed by clicking on "The Big Idea" in the "Jump to Episode" index. (thanks Dunrobin)

j.strubachinkoscow · **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2006, 04:03:24 PM

I'm interested...if it can be discussed, what kind of legal action could JF take against someone for debating a historical point? Isn't that, in part, what these boards are about (a healthy not hostile debate that is)

Did this tirade go on on the actual board itself or behind the scenes?

I haven't heard a lot of nice things about this guy but his website and all those creepy pictures used to crack me up. Its like "Hey! There's Don Rickles...snap a picture and we can say that he took time between insults to discuss how he always wanted to work with the Stooges."

Sounds like the person in charge here did the right thing by banning him. Its one thing to say that you bought a book or DVD and indorse it. Its another thing entirely for you to have produced or written it and then post something whoring it around. No style.

Thanks for taking the time to read my post.

FineBari3 · **Reply #22 on:** March 25, 2006, 08:40:39 AM

I just noticed your screename!!!!

ROTFLMAO!

There are some good ones on this board!

"TED HEALY AND HIS STOOGES" DVD Documentary

Donaldson Books

Watts Dee Matter

Pilsner Panther

Pilsner Panther