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Offline GOTBSB

Hi, group!

I've been a viewer and sometime visitor to the ThreeStooges.net site and this forum for some time, first time poster. It should be mentioned that I'm a younger fan of the Boys, 16 years of age. T'was only a few months ago when I started watching their comedies on AMC and IFC, and boy! was I hooked. (By the way, my first Stooge short was Half-Wit's Holiday, Curly's last. Why I didn't start with Uncivil Warriors or You Natzy Spy instead of a sick Curly I'll never know (could be worse, I could've started with one of the Joe Palma Four!), but my favorite Curly would be A-Ducking They Did Go, with honorable mentions being Gents Without Cents, Calling All Curs and Oily to Bed, Oily to Rise. My fave Shemp would be Baby Sitters' Jitters, although I remember liking Monkey's Uncle a bit. Can't comment on the Joes or the features with Curly Joe, never seen them (although I've seen a number of those wretched 1965 cartoons...uggh!)

If you're wondering what in Vulgaria my username means, it's an acronym for "Get Out of Town by Sundown Brown", a recurring foil to the Boys in a number of those aforementioned New Three Stooges cartoons, often playing their boss for some reason. Confession about those cartoons: I actually find them watchable. Sure, the jokes are corny and abysmal, but the few things that keep me coming back to them are the wonderful stock music, plus the fact that Our Boys provided the voices for their own animated counterparts. It could've been worse, though: Cambria could've ended up going cartoons with the Hakins/Wolf/Garner threesome (not saying that could've happened, but...).

Outside of the Boys, my other likes include animation, classic TV (I especially love me some ALF, Beaver, All in the Family, and Diff'rent Strokes), comics (especially Archies, Harveys, and the Duck comics of Carl Barks) and music.

Anyway, onto my questions:

1. Do the deleted scenes from So Long, Mr. Chumps, Three Little Pigskins, and Heavenly Daze, plus from the MGM Healy-era Plane Nuts exist anywhere? I know publicity photos from the scenes were taken (images can be seen in Scrapbook and Robert Kurson's Encyclopedia), but I'd love to know if footage from these scenes are known to exist anywhere (in archives, etc.).

2. Who did the voices on Cambria's New Three Stooges cartoons, besides Our Boys (just the cartoons, not the live-action wraparounds)? I know Larry did opening narration in "Don't Misbehave Indian Brave", and Margaret Kerry can be heard supplying various female voices in a number of cartoons. Apparently that grumbly-voiced guy who did Tim Bear and Sundown Brown, plus various incidentals is Hal Smith according to one of the posters here, but I'm not sure where that info came from, since I can't seem to find his name in the entry for the 'toons in Scrapbook. I also want to say Emil Sitka did some voices as well, but not positive.

3. What's everyone's thoughts on The New Three Stooges? See above for mine.

Don't expect me to be posting much here, I won't likely be here often.

Incidentally, I've noticed that today's Dudley Dickerson's birthday. So happy birthday to one of Stoogedom's favorite supporting players!


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Hi, group!

I've been a viewer and sometime visitor to the ThreeStooges.net site and this forum for some time, first time poster. It should be mentioned that I'm a younger fan of the Boys, 16 years of age. T'was only a few months ago when I started watching their comedies on AMC and IFC, and boy! was I hooked. (By the way, my first Stooge short was Half-Wit's Holiday, Curly's last. Why I didn't start with Uncivil Warriors or You Natzy Spy instead of a sick Curly I'll never know (could be worse, I could've started with one of the Joe Palma Four!), but my favorite Curly would be A-Ducking They Did Go, with honorable mentions being Gents Without Cents, Calling All Curs and Oily to Bed, Oily to Rise. My fave Shemp would be Baby Sitters' Jitters, although I remember liking Monkey's Uncle a bit. Can't comment on the Joes or the features with Curly Joe, never seen them (although I've seen a number of those wretched 1965 cartoons...uggh!)

If you're wondering what in Vulgaria my username means, it's an acronym for "Get Out of Town by Sundown Brown", a recurring foil to the Boys in a number of those aforementioned New Three Stooges cartoons, often playing their boss for some reason. Confession about those cartoons: I actually find them watchable. Sure, the jokes are corny and abysmal, but the few things that keep me coming back to them are the wonderful stock music, plus the fact that Our Boys provided the voices for their own animated counterparts. It could've been worse, though: Cambria could've ended up going cartoons with the Hakins/Wolf/Garner threesome (not saying that could've happened, but...).

Outside of the Boys, my other likes include animation, classic TV (I especially love me some ALF, Beaver, All in the Family, and Diff'rent Strokes), comics (especially Archies, Harveys, and the Duck comics of Carl Barks) and music.

Anyway, onto my questions:

1. Do the deleted scenes from So Long, Mr. Chumps, Three Little Pigskins, and Heavenly Daze, plus from the MGM Healy-era Plane Nuts exist anywhere? I know publicity photos from the scenes were taken (images can be seen in Scrapbook and Robert Kurson's Encyclopedia), but I'd love to know if footage from these scenes are known to exist anywhere (in archives, etc.).

2. Who did the voices on Cambria's New Three Stooges cartoons, besides Our Boys (just the cartoons, not the live-action wraparounds)? I know Larry did opening narration in "Don't Misbehave Indian Brave", and Margaret Kerry can be heard supplying various female voices in a number of cartoons. Apparently that grumbly-voiced guy who did Tim Bear and Sundown Brown, plus various incidentals is Hal Smith according to one of the posters here, but I'm not sure where that info came from, since I can't seem to find his name in the entry for the 'toons in Scrapbook. I also want to say Emil Sitka did some voices as well, but not positive.

3. What's everyone's thoughts on The New Three Stooges? See above for mine.

Don't expect me to be posting much here, I won't likely be here often.

Incidentally, I've noticed that today's Dudley Dickerson's birthday. So happy birthday to one of Stoogedom's favorite supporting players!

Unfortunately, I can’t help with your first question since I don’t know a lot about archives and whether or not they feature any Stooge films. However, I’ll try as best as possible to help with your question on The New Three Stooges.

-Paul Frees did voices for the pilot, “That Little Old Bombmaker” (you can tell because one of the voices sounds like Boris Badenov from Rocky and Bullwinkle).
-Margaret Kerry did the female voices as well as the voices for children whenever they appeared.
-Hal Smith did most of the adult male voices (he and Kerry were both regulars at Cambria, appearing in their other shows like Clutch Cargo and Space Angel, so it was only natural that they’d continue appearing in The New Three Stooges).
-The Stooges occasionally did other voices (notably Moe as Orville Wright in “A Flycicle Built For Two”).
-Threestooges.net credits an actor named Johnny Coons for appearing as well. Unfortunately, I don’t know a whole lot about this actor, but he did do voice work in other cartoons, so it’s possible he could have appeared on this show.
-Sitka may have appeared in the cartoons, but I can’t recall any specific voices he did. He did claim that Cambria would sometimes hire him to do voice work if they needed a specific voice that he happened to be able to do, but he wasn’t used as frequently as Smith or Kerry and he seemed to be referring to Clutch Cargo when he made this claim, not The New Three Stooges. Again, he could’ve done some voices, but I don’t recall any specific examples.

Like you, I’m one of the younger fans of the Stooges and I was actually introduced to them through the cartoon series. I do have some fond memories of them, but even back then, I was more fond of the live-action bits than the cartoon bits. Still, the cartoons had some fun moments, particularly the voice work, and, considering that most Cambria cartoons used the Synchro-Vox process (shudders), this could have been a lot worse.
“I’ll take a milkshake...with sour milk!” -Shemp (Punchy Cowpunchers, 1950)

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Offline metaldams

Hi, group!

I've been a viewer and sometime visitor to the ThreeStooges.net site and this forum for some time, first time poster. It should be mentioned that I'm a younger fan of the Boys, 16 years of age. T'was only a few months ago when I started watching their comedies on AMC and IFC, and boy! was I hooked. (By the way, my first Stooge short was Half-Wit's Holiday, Curly's last. Why I didn't start with Uncivil Warriors or You Natzy Spy instead of a sick Curly I'll never know (could be worse, I could've started with one of the Joe Palma Four!), but my favorite Curly would be A-Ducking They Did Go, with honorable mentions being Gents Without Cents, Calling All Curs and Oily to Bed, Oily to Rise. My fave Shemp would be Baby Sitters' Jitters, although I remember liking Monkey's Uncle a bit. Can't comment on the Joes or the features with Curly Joe, never seen them (although I've seen a number of those wretched 1965 cartoons...uggh!)

If you're wondering what in Vulgaria my username means, it's an acronym for "Get Out of Town by Sundown Brown", a recurring foil to the Boys in a number of those aforementioned New Three Stooges cartoons, often playing their boss for some reason. Confession about those cartoons: I actually find them watchable. Sure, the jokes are corny and abysmal, but the few things that keep me coming back to them are the wonderful stock music, plus the fact that Our Boys provided the voices for their own animated counterparts. It could've been worse, though: Cambria could've ended up going cartoons with the Hakins/Wolf/Garner threesome (not saying that could've happened, but...).

Outside of the Boys, my other likes include animation, classic TV (I especially love me some ALF, Beaver, All in the Family, and Diff'rent Strokes), comics (especially Archies, Harveys, and the Duck comics of Carl Barks) and music.

Anyway, onto my questions:

1. Do the deleted scenes from So Long, Mr. Chumps, Three Little Pigskins, and Heavenly Daze, plus from the MGM Healy-era Plane Nuts exist anywhere? I know publicity photos from the scenes were taken (images can be seen in Scrapbook and Robert Kurson's Encyclopedia), but I'd love to know if footage from these scenes are known to exist anywhere (in archives, etc.).

2. Who did the voices on Cambria's New Three Stooges cartoons, besides Our Boys (just the cartoons, not the live-action wraparounds)? I know Larry did opening narration in "Don't Misbehave Indian Brave", and Margaret Kerry can be heard supplying various female voices in a number of cartoons. Apparently that grumbly-voiced guy who did Tim Bear and Sundown Brown, plus various incidentals is Hal Smith according to one of the posters here, but I'm not sure where that info came from, since I can't seem to find his name in the entry for the 'toons in Scrapbook. I also want to say Emil Sitka did some voices as well, but not positive.

3. What's everyone's thoughts on The New Three Stooges? See above for mine.

Don't expect me to be posting much here, I won't likely be here often.

Incidentally, I've noticed that today's Dudley Dickerson's birthday. So happy birthday to one of Stoogedom's favorite supporting players!

Hi, group!

I've been a viewer and sometime visitor to the ThreeStooges.net site and this forum for some time, first time poster. It should be mentioned that I'm a younger fan of the Boys, 16 years of age. T'was only a few months ago when I started watching their comedies on AMC and IFC, and boy! was I hooked. (By the way, my first Stooge short was Half-Wit's Holiday, Curly's last. Why I didn't start with Uncivil Warriors or You Natzy Spy instead of a sick Curly I'll never know (could be worse, I could've started with one of the Joe Palma Four!), but my favorite Curly would be A-Ducking They Did Go, with honorable mentions being Gents Without Cents, Calling All Curs and Oily to Bed, Oily to Rise. My fave Shemp would be Baby Sitters' Jitters, although I remember liking Monkey's Uncle a bit. Can't comment on the Joes or the features with Curly Joe, never seen them (although I've seen a number of those wretched 1965 cartoons...uggh!)

If you're wondering what in Vulgaria my username means, it's an acronym for "Get Out of Town by Sundown Brown", a recurring foil to the Boys in a number of those aforementioned New Three Stooges cartoons, often playing their boss for some reason. Confession about those cartoons: I actually find them watchable. Sure, the jokes are corny and abysmal, but the few things that keep me coming back to them are the wonderful stock music, plus the fact that Our Boys provided the voices for their own animated counterparts. It could've been worse, though: Cambria could've ended up going cartoons with the Hakins/Wolf/Garner threesome (not saying that could've happened, but...).

Outside of the Boys, my other likes include animation, classic TV (I especially love me some ALF, Beaver, All in the Family, and Diff'rent Strokes), comics (especially Archies, Harveys, and the Duck comics of Carl Barks) and music.

Anyway, onto my questions:

1. Do the deleted scenes from So Long, Mr. Chumps, Three Little Pigskins, and Heavenly Daze, plus from the MGM Healy-era Plane Nuts exist anywhere? I know publicity photos from the scenes were taken (images can be seen in Scrapbook and Robert Kurson's Encyclopedia), but I'd love to know if footage from these scenes are known to exist anywhere (in archives, etc.).

2. Who did the voices on Cambria's New Three Stooges cartoons, besides Our Boys (just the cartoons, not the live-action wraparounds)? I know Larry did opening narration in "Don't Misbehave Indian Brave", and Margaret Kerry can be heard supplying various female voices in a number of cartoons. Apparently that grumbly-voiced guy who did Tim Bear and Sundown Brown, plus various incidentals is Hal Smith according to one of the posters here, but I'm not sure where that info came from, since I can't seem to find his name in the entry for the 'toons in Scrapbook. I also want to say Emil Sitka did some voices as well, but not positive.

3. What's everyone's thoughts on The New Three Stooges? See above for mine.

Don't expect me to be posting much here, I won't likely be here often.

Incidentally, I've noticed that today's Dudley Dickerson's birthday. So happy birthday to one of Stoogedom's favorite supporting players!

Welcome to the board!  I also don't know the answer to the cutting room floor stuff, which I'd love to see (add Curly in Malice In the Palace to the list), but I highly doubt Columbia held onto that stuff.  A cheap studio....and the shorts department, no less, holding onto to outtakes decades before DVD extras were a thought is unlikely, but I could be wrong.

I'll be 40 in less than a month, so I could be your Dad....where's my AARP subscription?  Anyway, I used to watch Alf when it was new, I had to have been in 3rd of 4th grade and had to beg my Mom to let me stay up late enough to watch it.  Also, you mention music, I gotta ask, what type(s) and artists.  I'm a dinosaur and a serious music guy, so I'm curious as to your tastes and if teens even care about music that much these days besides yourself.
- Doug Sarnecky


Offline GOTBSB

Unfortunately, I can’t help with your first question since I don’t know a lot about archives and whether or not they feature any Stooge films. However, I’ll try as best as possible to help with your question on The New Three Stooges.

-Paul Frees did voices for the pilot, “That Little Old Bombmaker” (you can tell because one of the voices sounds like Boris Badenov from Rocky and Bullwinkle).
-Margaret Kerry did the female voices as well as the voices for children whenever they appeared.
-Hal Smith did most of the adult male voices (he and Kerry were both regulars at Cambria, appearing in their other shows like Clutch Cargo and Space Angel, so it was only natural that they’d continue appearing in The New Three Stooges).
-The Stooges occasionally did other voices (notably Moe as Orville Wright in “A Flycicle Built For Two”).
-Threestooges.net credits an actor named Johnny Coons for appearing as well. Unfortunately, I don’t know a whole lot about this actor, but he did do voice work in other cartoons, so it’s possible he could have appeared on this show.
-Sitka may have appeared in the cartoons, but I can’t recall any specific voices he did. He did claim that Cambria would sometimes hire him to do voice work if they needed a specific voice that he happened to be able to do, but he wasn’t used as frequently as Smith or Kerry and he seemed to be referring to Clutch Cargo when he made this claim, not The New Three Stooges. Again, he could’ve done some voices, but I don’t recall any specific examples.


Like you, I’m one of the younger fans of the Stooges and I was actually introduced to them through the cartoon series. I do have some fond memories of them, but even back then, I was more fond of the live-action bits than the cartoon bits. Still, the cartoons had some fun moments, particularly the voice work, and, considering that most Cambria cartoons used the Synchro-Vox process (shudders), this could have been a lot worse.

Thanks for the voice info, Sam. Can't believe I forgot about Paul Frees when I typed my initial post, he's always a delight to hear. By the way, if the animation was consistent with the drawing style seen on "Bombmaker" (who did that? Looks like the Jay Ward studio's doing, but "Bombmaker" is not listed in the filmography printed in The Moose That Roared, the best book on that studio one can ever hope to read.), the show would've been a lot of fun animation-wise. Also, I had no idea that was Moe! Kinda cool that the Boys occasionally supplied incidental voices (according to Scrapbook, this also happened on one of their kiddie records, with Moe voicing an umpire!).

I've seen Coons' name on the site's entry actually, but I'm not familiar with his voice, so I'm not going to guess what he did on the show. Incidentally, I've got a gut feeling Marty Marvelous in "That Was the Wreck That Was" is a Sitka voice. Just conjecture on my part, though.


Offline GOTBSB

Welcome to the board!  I also don't know the answer to the cutting room floor stuff, which I'd love to see (add Curly in Malice In the Palace to the list), but I highly doubt Columbia held onto that stuff.  A cheap studio....and the shorts department, no less, holding onto to outtakes decades before DVD extras were a thought is unlikely, but I could be wrong.

I'll be 40 in less than a month, so I could be your Dad....where's my AARP subscription?  Anyway, I used to watch Alf when it was new, I had to have been in 3rd of 4th grade and had to beg my Mom to let me stay up late enough to watch it.  Also, you mention music, I gotta ask, what type(s) and artists.  I'm a dinosaur and a serious music guy, so I'm curious as to your tastes and if teens even care about music that much these days besides yourself.

Awwww, too bad...Curly's cameo inPalace sounds really cool (I should know, I've seen his cameo in Hold That Lion). I'd really like to see the one for Chumps the most, that double-talk scene sounds pretty funny.

My favorite musical artists would be the Beatles, Queen, Elton John, and anything instrumental. Don't really go for a lot of those newer artists (more like talentless hacks) most young people around my age are into, like Drake or One Direction, I'm mostly an older pop/rock guy. Can't say I care for those so-called "masterpieces" of classical music, although I like a few (mostly because I've heard them on classic cartoons) that I've heard.

Also, nice to see another ALF fan. If you're interested, my favorite episodes would probably be the two-parter where ALF hosts the Tonight Show and that one where he writes a silent movie.


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Thanks for the voice info, Sam. Can't believe I forgot about Paul Frees when I typed my initial post, he's always a delight to hear. By the way, if the animation was consistent with the drawing style seen on "Bombmaker" (who did that? Looks like the Jay Ward studio's doing, but "Bombmaker" is not listed in the filmography printed in The Moose That Roared, the best book on that studio one can ever hope to read.), the show would've been a lot of fun animation-wise. Also, I had no idea that was Moe! Kinda cool that the Boys occasionally supplied incidental voices (according to Scrapbook, this also happened on one of their kiddie records, with Moe voicing an umpire!).

I've seen Coons' name on the site's entry actually, but I'm not familiar with his voice, so I'm not going to guess what he did on the show. Incidentally, I've got a gut feeling Marty Marvelous in "That Was the Wreck That Was" is a Sitka voice. Just conjecture on my part, though.

Now that you mention it, the animation in the first episode looks very much like the Ward studio's style, and that would also explain Frees's involvement. Sure enough, looking at the threestooges.net page, they say that it was outsourced to Ward. I agree that The Moose That Roared is the definitive book on the work of the Ward studio, but it is also almost 20 years old and documentation could have shown up since then proving their involvement.

Coincidentally, the three musical acts you mentioned happen to be my favorites too (just saw Elton live last month for his farewell tour).

I also noticed in your initial post you mentioned that you're a fan of the Duck comics. I'm curious, have you seen either of the DuckTales cartoon series, and if so, what are your thoughts on them?
“I’ll take a milkshake...with sour milk!” -Shemp (Punchy Cowpunchers, 1950)

My blog: https://talk-about-cinema.blogspot.com


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The Beatles I love, been a fan since the Anthology series came out in the mid 90's.  Love the whole catalog, though "The White Album" is my favorite.  My Mom saw The Beatles in Shea Stadium in '65 and '66 and I saw Paul McCartney with her and my pops exactly 45 years to the day later from the '65 show in Philadelphia.

Queen I got into shortly after Freddie died.  Remember watching the AIDS benefit tribute concert on MTV when it aired and I bought INNUENDO when it was a fairly new release.  Album wise I like the first four the most with QUEEN II being my absolute favorite, but song wise I like songs from all eras, with later songs "Who Wants to Live Forever," "The Show Must Go On," and "These Are the Days of Our Lives" being among my favorites.  I did see the BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY movie last weekend and enjoyed it....though the chronology of some events was wrong and (spoiler alert) them getting on Freddie's case for releasing solo material is crap because in real life, Roger Taylor and Brian May did outside projects before Freddie....yet Freddie put the band on hold doing solo albums?  Still a good movie.

Elton I like but wouldn't call myself more than a casual fan.
- Doug Sarnecky


Offline hiramhorwitz


I've been a viewer and sometime visitor to the ThreeStooges.net site and this forum for some time, first time poster. It should be mentioned that I'm a younger fan of the Boys, 16 years of age.


GOTBSB:  How wonderful to read your posting and welcome a prime-of-life Stooges fan to this site!  Reading that you're 16 years of age makes me very nostalgic - first, because it's been 45 years since I was 16 - and second, because 16 was my age when I tracked down and met Moe, Larry, and the Joes.  That was definitely a highlight of my life that has stuck with me over the past four and a half decades.

How wonderful, too, to hear that you're a fan of Beaver, All in the Family, The Beatles, and Elton John - I can relate, as I grew up with all of them and still feel the impact of their contributions.  Bravo to you for being so discerning!

Just for fun, I've included a link below for a 5 minute movie I took of Elton John during a 1976 concert at the Spectrum in Philadelphia, PA.  Note that this was captured on silent 8mm B&W film, developed in my basement, and then digitally supplemented with an Elton John song four decades later.  As you probably know, home video (with sound) didn't become commercially available until the early 1980s, so silent films were the norm in the 1970s.  The song I added to the footage was the one Elton used to open the concert, so I thought it was fitting to use that one, regardless of the fact that it was one of his less popular and more forgotten compositions. 

Hope you'll post more in the future - it's awfully refreshing to hear from young Stooges fans, particularly those under the age of twenty like you - a true rarity these days!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17NpoNcx6jMiju1g8t52FnBt8fbt85F-b/view?usp=sharing


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GOTBSB:  How wonderful to read your posting and welcome a prime-of-life Stooges fan to this site!  Reading that you're 16 years of age makes me very nostalgic - first, because it's been 45 years since I was 16 - and second, because 16 was my age when I tracked down and met Moe, Larry, and the Joes.  That was definitely a highlight of my life that has stuck with me over the past four and a half decades.

How wonderful, too, to hear that you're a fan of Beaver, All in the Family, The Beatles, and Elton John - I can relate, as I grew up with all of them and still feel the impact of their contributions.  Bravo to you for being so discerning!

Just for fun, I've included a link below for a 5 minute movie I took of Elton John during a 1976 concert at the Spectrum in Philadelphia, PA.  Note that this was captured on silent 8mm B&W film, developed in my basement, and then digitally supplemented with an Elton John song four decades later.  As you probably know, home video (with sound) didn't become commercially available until the early 1980s, so silent films were the norm in the 1970s.  The song I added to the footage was the one Elton used to open the concert, so I thought it was fitting to use that one, regardless of the fact that it was one of his less popular and more forgotten compositions. 

Hope you'll post more in the future - it's awfully refreshing to hear from young Stooges fans, particularly those under the age of twenty like you - a true rarity these days!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17NpoNcx6jMiju1g8t52FnBt8fbt85F-b/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for sharing, hiramhorwitz. Always nice to see concert footage from Elton’s classic period. Interesting that he opened with “Grow Some Funk of Your Own.” As I understand, it was fairly successful back then, but today it isn’t usually considered among his greatest hits.

Interestingly enough, it looks like Elton is playing guitar about 3 and a half minutes in. Do you remember what song that was for, and if he played it for the entire song?
“I’ll take a milkshake...with sour milk!” -Shemp (Punchy Cowpunchers, 1950)

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Interestingly enough, it looks like Elton is playing guitar about 3 and a half minutes in. Do you remember what song that was for, and if he played it for the entire song?


Sam - yes, the song was Love Song from the Tumbleweed Connection album.  As you probably know, Love Song was written by Lesley Duncan.  I'm not 100% certain, but I think that Duncan was the other acoustic guitarist joining Elton on stage and providing backing vocals for the song (the one adjacent to him in the movie clip).  As far as I recall, Elton played his guitar for the duration of the song.  Although Elton was much more of a sensation in 1976 then now, I believe his popularity had already begun to decline by then.  Based on my recollections, it seems that Elton's peak occurred sometime in 1974.  I was lucky enough to attend his concerts both in 1974 and 1976, and in my opinion, the crowd enthusiasm in 1974 was an order of magnitude higher than it was in 1976.  Thanks for your interest and questions!


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Now that you mention it, the animation in the first episode looks very much like the Ward studio's style, and that would also explain Frees's involvement. Sure enough, looking at the threestooges.net page, they say that it was outsourced to Ward. I agree that The Moose That Roared is the definitive book on the work of the Ward studio, but it is also almost 20 years old and documentation could have shown up since then proving their involvement.

Coincidentally, the three musical acts you mentioned happen to be my favorites too (just saw Elton live last month for his farewell tour).

I also noticed in your initial post you mentioned that you're a fan of the Duck comics. I'm curious, have you seen either of the DuckTales cartoon series, and if so, what are your thoughts on them?

If you're referring to the original 1987 series, I've seen bits and pieces of it, but never a complete episode. If you're referring to the 2017 reboot, it's really excellent. How a reboot should be.


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GOTBSB:  How wonderful to read your posting and welcome a prime-of-life Stooges fan to this site!  Reading that you're 16 years of age makes me very nostalgic - first, because it's been 45 years since I was 16 - and second, because 16 was my age when I tracked down and met Moe, Larry, and the Joes.  That was definitely a highlight of my life that has stuck with me over the past four and a half decades.

How wonderful, too, to hear that you're a fan of Beaver, All in the Family, The Beatles, and Elton John - I can relate, as I grew up with all of them and still feel the impact of their contributions.  Bravo to you for being so discerning!

Just for fun, I've included a link below for a 5 minute movie I took of Elton John during a 1976 concert at the Spectrum in Philadelphia, PA.  Note that this was captured on silent 8mm B&W film, developed in my basement, and then digitally supplemented with an Elton John song four decades later.  As you probably know, home video (with sound) didn't become commercially available until the early 1980s, so silent films were the norm in the 1970s.  The song I added to the footage was the one Elton used to open the concert, so I thought it was fitting to use that one, regardless of the fact that it was one of his less popular and more forgotten compositions. 

Hope you'll post more in the future - it's awfully refreshing to hear from young Stooges fans, particularly those under the age of twenty like you - a true rarity these days!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17NpoNcx6jMiju1g8t52FnBt8fbt85F-b/view?usp=sharing

Thanks for the warm welcome, Hiram. And thanks for the home movie footage of Elton! Really interesting stuff.


Offline GOTBSB

Oh- and another thing:

There's this pretty funny photo reprinted in Scrapbook that has intrigued me lately. It's at the end of the "Stooges on Records" chapter, and depicts the Stooges trying out as a new rock group, with Larry playing an electric guitar like a violin! All I know about it is that it's gotta be from the mid-to-late 60s, since Curly-Joe's in the photo, and other than that, nothing. A thought has been buzzing through my head lately that it might be from a wraparound from the New Three Stooges cartoons that was never aired, but that's likely not the case. Anyone know the origin of that image?


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There's this pretty funny photo reprinted in Scrapbook that has intrigued me lately. It's at the end of the "Stooges on Records" chapter, and depicts the Stooges trying out as a new rock group, with Larry playing an electric guitar like a violin! All I know about it is that it's gotta be from the mid-to-late 60s, since Curly-Joe's in the photo, and other than that, nothing. A thought has been buzzing through my head lately that it might be from a wraparound from the New Three Stooges cartoons that was never aired, but that's likely not the case. Anyone know the origin of that image?


I believe that shot was one of a series of photos taken in 1966 by the Fender Corporation for the purpose of promoting their guitars.  Attached below is a slightly different pose taken during the same photo session.  My apologies for the very small file size - that's the only version of this photo I could find this morning.


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I believe that shot was one of a series of photos taken in 1966 by the Fender Corporation for the purpose of promoting their guitars.  Attached below is a slightly different pose taken during the same photo session.  My apologies for the very small file size - that's the only version of this photo I could find this morning.

Thanks for the info! Nice to finally know the origin! Lovin' the other photo from the same session you attached...in color yet!


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If you're referring to the original 1987 series, I've seen bits and pieces of it, but never a complete episode. If you're referring to the 2017 reboot, it's really excellent. How a reboot should be.

Agreed. The 2017 version is fantastic and, in my opinion, better than the original (although I still think Alan Young was the better voice for Scrooge). One of the few modern shows I watch on a regular basis.
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DUCKTALES, like ALF, is something I watched when it was initially on the air as a young kid but haven't seen in probably 30 years.  The former I remember rushing home from school as a kid after 3rd grade probably to watch.  Innocent times!  I remember the Nintendo DUCKTALES game was quite good....better than The Three Stooges, anyway.  [pie]
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I believe that shot was one of a series of photos taken in 1966 by the Fender Corporation for the purpose of promoting their guitars.  Attached below is a slightly different pose taken during the same photo session.  My apologies for the very small file size - that's the only version of this photo I could find this morning.

I think Moe has the Fender six string bass in that picture....or at least it sure looks like it.  Whenever John and George played bass on a later Beatles tune, that's what they'd use.  Check out videos of John in "Let It Be" and "Long and Winding Road," pretty sure it's the same instrument.
- Doug Sarnecky


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-Threestooges.net credits an actor named Johnny Coons for appearing as well. Unfortunately, I don’t know a whole lot about this actor, but he did do voice work in other cartoons, so it’s possible he could have appeared on this show.

Could be "Uncle Johnny Coons" from early Chicago TV:

http://chicagotelevision.com/johnnycoons.htm


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A few other questions which just popped up in my head:

1. Who gave Curly-Joe that nickname? I wanna say either Moe or Norman Maurer.

2. Were the non-Stooge Columbia shorts (Andy Clyde, Charley Chase et al.) ever shown on TV back in the 60s, 70s, or 80s (not in this century)? Same with the Joe McDoakes comedies from WB (not Stooge-related, but I know some members here like those shorts. I've only seen one from start to finish [So You Want to Be a Detective?], and it was a hoot.])

3. Are there any Stooge shorts where you can hear Curly speak in his natural voice?


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3. Are there any Stooge shorts where you can hear Curly speak in his natural voice?

There are a few lines in CRASH GOES THE HASH where Curly is almost whispering...sounds like what I think his regular voice would be.
- Doug Sarnecky


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2. Were the non-Stooge Columbia shorts (Andy Clyde, Charley Chase et al.) ever shown on TV back in the 60s, 70s, or 80s (not in this century)? Same with the Joe McDoakes comedies from WB (not Stooge-related, but I know some members here like those shorts. I've only seen one from start to finish [So You Want to Be a Detective?], and it was a hoot.])


I am not aware of any non-Stooge Columbia shorts (NSCSs) being shown on NYC or Philly TV during the 60s, 70s, or 80s, and that's the time period when I was glued to my TV set.  I have no idea whether other cities may have broadcast the NSCSs, as my TV viewings were limited to the NYC and Philly channels.  The only place I ever saw an NSCS in those days was at a Sons of the Desert (Laurel and Hardy) Meeting.


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Were the non-Stooge Columbia shorts (Andy Clyde, Charley Chase et al.) ever shown on TV back in the 60s, 70s, or 80s (not in this century)?

April 1959, Columbia/Screen Gems marketed the "Hilarious Hundred" package of non-Stooge shorts.  There were more than 100, but it was marketed as such.  This was in addition to that same month's "phase 2" of the Stooge roll-out of shorts, which was a package of 40 (78 in Sept. 1958, 40 in April 1959, 72 in Sept. 1959).

They didn't enjoy the same popularity as the Three Stooges, and on most of the participating stations sorta faded away after a couple years.


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April 1959, Columbia/Screen Gems marketed the "Hilarious Hundred" package of non-Stooge shorts.  There were more than 100, but it was marketed as such.  This was in addition to that same month's "phase 2" of the Stooge roll-out of shorts, which was a package of 40 (78 in Sept. 1958, 40 in April 1959, 72 in Sept. 1959).

They didn't enjoy the same popularity as the Three Stooges, and on most of the participating stations sorta faded away after a couple years.

Thanks for the info, BeAStooge! Very fascinating, although I'm sure most viewers didn't think of El Brendel and his Swede accent as "hilarious", nyuk nyuk!


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April 1959, Columbia/Screen Gems marketed the "Hilarious Hundred" package of non-Stooge shorts.  There were more than 100, but it was marketed as such.  This was in addition to that same month's "phase 2" of the Stooge roll-out of shorts, which was a package of 40 (78 in Sept. 1958, 40 in April 1959, 72 in Sept. 1959).

They didn't enjoy the same popularity as the Three Stooges, and on most of the participating stations sorta faded away after a couple years.

FINALLY, I now know the full story [thanks Brent!].... years ago when I bought some of these non-Stooge Columbias on bootleg VHS, I was surprised to see the Screen Gems logo tacked on the the beginning of some of them. I then surmised that they had had some sort of TV release at one time or another, but beyond that, I never knew when, why, or for how long.... until now!

This may be a stupid comparison, but it's the first thing I thought of when I saw the details of Brent's post: 20 years after the Stooges "second career" started, Benny Hill hit the US airwaves for the first time in 1979 [with re-packagings of his old Thames Television specials] and was a massive success. Thames quickly decided to capitalize on Benny's unexpected popularity with another made-for-the-USA package entitled "After Benny, Thames Presents..." which was simply a collection of other Thames Television comedy shows, none of which had the visual appeal/slapstick of Benny's shows, and died a very quick death in the US syndication market. Perhaps the same "suit" who brought us El Brendel in 1959 also gave us Bernard Cribbins in 1979!