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How did Columbia handle the Curly to Shemp change???
JazzBill:
--- Quote from: Hammond Eggar on July 24, 2008, 10:46:30 PM ---I own a copy of Moe Howard's autobiogaphy, Moe Howard and the 3 Stooges. It's been years since I last read it cover-to-cover, so maybe someone here can clarify something for me. I seem to recall Moe stating that, after Shemp passed away, he and Larry suggested to Columbia that they continue on as the 2 Stooges. Columbia, of course, disagreed with that idea. How much truth is there to this statement? It seems that this is one of those books which fans have sited as having lots of inaccuracies, even though it was Moe's autobiography. ???
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I haven't read the book in a while either, but I remember that some of the book didn't seem right to me either. Mostly towards the end. I do believe that Moe died before the book was completely finished, and that Norman Maurer might have put the finishing touches on it. What usually happens when I don't research a question carefully, someone will come back and correct me. Rightfully so, of coarse. But I do agree that some of the book didn't match some of stories that I heard.
xraffle:
--- Quote from: Hammond Eggar on July 24, 2008, 10:46:30 PM ---I own a copy of Moe Howard's autobiogaphy, Moe Howard and the 3 Stooges. It's been years since I last read it cover-to-cover, so maybe someone here can clarify something for me. I seem to recall Moe stating that, after Shemp passed away, he and Larry suggested to Columbia that they continue on as the 2 Stooges. Columbia, of course, disagreed with that idea. How much truth is there to this statement? It seems that this is one of those books which fans have sited as having lots of inaccuracies, even though it was Moe's autobiography. ???
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Yeah, I've read that there too. I believe they said the same thing on the A&E biography video if I remember correctly.
Dr. Belch:
Of course, one must remember that many of the interviews were conducted and the books written when the surviving Stooges were well into their sixties, so one must allow for some gaps in the old memory. Plus Shemp and Curly weren't around to drop in their two cents...we still don't know the name of Curly's first wife, even after all these years--fear of family scandal, they say. I wonder if she or her kids (if she ever had any) ever came forth and demanded a cut of the Stooge pie?
curlysdame:
--- Quote from: Dr. Belch on July 27, 2008, 01:06:46 AM ---...we still don't know the name of Curly's first wife, even after all these years--fear of family scandal, they say. I wonder if she or her kids (if she ever had any) ever came forth and demanded a cut of the Stooge pie?
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We 'sointenly' do; her name was Julia Rosenthal. There's a 4 page article on it in The Three Stooges Journal, issue #76 (see the Journal index section of the site). The info that we know now, it makes perfect sense to me why the Horwitz family (mostly Jennie, I'm assuming) would say Jerry's marriage would've been annuled. The Horwitz family was very orthodox, and a divorce within the orthodox community back then (and now, too, probably) was definitely frowned upon. Also, Jennie had made quite a career for herself in real estate, and was well known/respected in the general community; she had a reputation to maintain. Divorce was something you just didn't do in those days, so in order to avoid any kind of scandal, Jerry's divorce was swept under the rug, and passed off as an annulment.
I, too, have wondered what happened after the divorce. I heard Jerry was really nuts about his first wife, so what really went wrong between them? Did he ever see/hear from her again? It really makes one curious.
FineBari3:
--- Quote from: curlysdame on July 27, 2008, 02:15:45 AM ---
I, too, have wondered what happened after the divorce. I heard Jerry was really nuts about his first wife, so what really went wrong between them? Did he ever see/hear from her again? It really makes one curious.
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What a terrible thing to have happen! It must have torn poor Jerry apart! I'm sure it had an effect on his emotions from then on. His mother sure had a hold of him, if you have read the stories in the books. I really do not know the "Curly" book well, but I know there is a part where a psychologist gives insight to Jerry's psyche. I think I might re-read that part today!
I sure can understand the scandal of that back then; things like this can still go on today in some circles. Things like divorce and having children born out of wedlock are not a big deal to a lot of people. My step-brother just had an illegitimate child, and my mother, who is very old-fashioned, is very embarassed.
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