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FineBari3:

--- Quote from: curlydude on March 15, 2009, 05:03:28 PM ---Incorrect on several levels. First, you do not, and cannot, know what the original writers or the stooges intended at that time. This, of course, only applies if you are not one of the original writers or one of the Stooges (which I doubt, and one of those options being impossible). So...again, the Stooges played on many sexual innuendo which seemed fun for them and the audience. There are instances of names like " Mrs. Throttle Bottom" and " Mrs. Van Bossom". The Stooges loved the ladies and like most famous male celebrities, enjoyed the natural, beautiful physical ralations between a man and woman as often as possible  [pie] There's also instances of phrases like " He threads a fast needle.." and many others that obviously are part of the Stooge nomenclature of fun sexual references. Back to the cussing thing, the episode where they go down to Mexico to do the comedy bullfight has Curly almost saying, " God Damn It", several times, once to the jealous husband of Esther (the attractive female lead), once to a Mexican character, and once to Moe...check it out.  [3stooges] Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk... :D

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I would say that Brent, who is one of the leading Stooge experts in the WORLD, is most certainly correct here. Brent has been closer to the writers of the Stooges' shorts than any of us here. How many Stooges scripts have you researched? How many archives and private libraries have you been to?

Did you ever hear of a thing called the Hays Code? Sexual innuendo of any kind was forbidden. I'm sure some instances got through, but nothing as brasen as you are interpreting. Pre-Code, yes....post 1934, absolutely not.

BeAStooge:

--- Quote from: curlydude on March 15, 2009, 05:03:28 PM ---Incorrect on several levels. First, you do not, and cannot, know what the original writers or the stooges intended at that time.

This, of course, only applies if you are not one of the original writers or one of the Stooges (which I doubt, and one of those options being impossible).

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Reasoning that applies to your point of view and yourself as well... you do not know, and you weren't there.

I have read and researched scores of the original shooting scripts in Jules White's files at the AMPAAS Library, and there is an undeniable undercurrent of conservatism throughout them. Scripted sequences with even a modicum of inference are usually accompanied by Jules' pencilled notations, directing himself, the A.D., or the screenwriter to get clearance from Mr. Briskin (White's boss at Columbia, who was Cohn's VP in charge of B pictures and the shorts dept.) or "the front office."

As noted, "having a load" is a longtime and common colloquial for being drunk. In context of the times (the 1940s) and all the short subject scripts I've read, that was the joke's intended meaning.

curlydude:
Looking at scripts is FINE (no pun intended  [pie]) but when you look to some of the humor, jokes and specifically selected terms/phrases/words and references within certain contexts as a thread and connect all the dots, it is pretty clear. Curly chasing the pretty girls all the time, and the "ejaculated a mouthful" line and all the " Mrs. Throttle Bottom" type nicknames, and Curly doing his funny yell when a girl would rub on his "wonderful head of bone" and his convulsions whenever a girl would get near him or kiss him, and on, and on...in short, the Stooges ALWAYS had an undercurrent of very sexually suggestive energy in some of the humor, especially evident whenever attractive females were introduced into the filmed sequences (which is a great thing, fun and part of their irreverent charm). Just an educated point of view based on many years of in depth research which included many a night with many a " Mrs. Throttle Bottom" ! ...  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

metaldams:
Curlydude, Moe Howard himself would not argue with BeAStooge about The Three Stooges.  As somebody who posted here for years...trust me.  I'm sure he's right about the BOOBY DUPES reference, even though I can certainly see where you're coming from.

That said, The whole "Big Zipper/Bulge Area" thing on the YOU NAZTY SPY map.......I don't care what Jules White's notes say (not that I'm aware what they say), too coincidental.

curlydude:
I'm not arguing, just pointing out what many of the great comics had in common, a strong passion for all things pleasurable. I wasn't aware of the map thing, but I will check it out. Also, there are differences between original scripts, re-writes and the various multitudes of revisions in a production. It's not even a point of contention, it's a pretty obvious thread through Curly's comedic interactions with all the attractive female characters. It's one of the most enjoyable aspects of the Stooges in a way. Again, part of the charm and irreverence of the genius of the Stooges. As an aside, Curly was married five times, so that pretty much tells us about his focus on chasing women and always looking for the next "pleasantly plump" throttle bottom and buxom pair of van bossoms... [pie] I guess if you're healthy and happy it's natural !!! And fun, too !!

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