Topic: Crappiest Cartoon Studio

[BeAStooge]

Btw, the evidence is gone now, but it was me who reccomended you for your high position on the board. You deserve it, fella! Of course, my idea of having you as a replacement wasn't followed through on. No surprise there, as a certain someone's blinders must be surgically attached.

Over a year ago, Rob asked if I would agree to database access for the Videography and Calendar pages.  That's been the extent of the so-called "high position" since that time.  Unless Rob has something to clarify for me, I do not have clue # 1 where you figured into it.  And, I have no interest in a global moderator role for this or any website forum(s).

Thank you for the overall compliment.

However, a word of advice.  I am not someone that you would want making decisions over warnings, time-outs and bans.

[BeAStooge]

I loved Fractured Fairy Tales!  Edward Everett Horton's voice was almost hypnotic when I was a kid. 

Sony and Image released the first two seasons of ROCKY & BULLWINKLE (1959 - 1961) this past year; season 3 (1961 - 1962) is tentatively due in Spring 2005.

Excellent DVD package, with fully restored and complete films.  Loaded with the view-aschew insanity and pun-laden humor of "Rocky & Bullwinkle," "Fractured Fairy Tales," "Mister Peabody's Improbable History," "Aesop's Tales" and "Dudley Do-Right," and the voices of Paul Frees, William Conrad, Charley Ruggles, Hans Conried, Bill Scott, June Foray and Edward Everett Horton.

[Dunrobin]

Of course, my idea of having you as a replacement wasn't followed through on. No surprise there, as a certain someone's blinders must be surgically attached.

Nice little slam there, Eric.  Lucky for you that I'm a nice guy, or I'd have to muss ya up. 

I just happen to value my own opinion quite a bit more than I do yours.

Over a year ago, Rob asked if I would agree to database access for the Videography and Calendar pages. That's been the extent of the so-called "high position" since that time. Unless Rob has something to clarify for me, I do not have clue # 1 where you figured into it. And, I have no interest in a global moderator role for this or any website forum(s).

Thank you for the overall compliment.

However, a word of advice. I am not someone that you would want making decisions over warnings, time-outs and bans.

I do remember that some time ago, after Team Stooge got underway, Eric recommended that I recognize your contributions, Brent, by making you an Administrator in place of Jim.   Since (a) I had no intention of dropping Jim, and (b) I already knew that you had no desire to be a Moderator or Adminstrator, I simply ignored him.   

[shemps#1]

Dude, I'm high; and this is some funny shit.

[shemps#1]

[BeAStooge]

Dude, I'm high; and this is some funny shit.

I've got a "high position," and this is some funny shit.

Y'know, I don't think I've said "funny shit" since my bong days back in the '70s.

[Dunrobin]

Dude, I'm high; and this is some funny shit.

I've got a "high position," and this is some funny shit.

Y'know, I don't think I've said "funny shit" since my bong days back in the '70s.

Dude, bongs are nice, but the price of smoke these days.... 

With Eric, though, you don't need to be stoned; he's funny as crap even without it!  And once again he's managed to divert a topic to one about himself.

(Ya know I'm gonna hear about that one!)   

[BeAStooge]

I mean to say that every ounce of HB's quality was gone by the late '60s.

Another anecdote:

During a recent trip to LA, I had the opportunity to speak with Gary Owens for a little bit.  Both of us being a Stooges fan, he mentioned working with Joe Besser on SCOOBY'S LAFF-A-LYMPICS.  To make a long story short, Mr. Owens recognizes his SCOOBY credit as a paying job that gave him the opportunity to work with a lot of friends in the voice-over business... but, he also acknowledged that the show was a terrible piece of animation entertainment.

[rvoyttbots]

Terrytoons, hands down, especially Deputy Dawg. Ugh! I`ll take HB over Terrytoons anyday. And you haven`t seen truly bad toons unless you`ve seen Hercules from the early 60`s. Mindnumbing. I don`t know who made those crappy things tho. I saw an MGM toon on Turner Classic Movies the other day. It was a Christmas toon and takes place after armageddon and all of mankind is dead and only fuzzy cartoon animals survived. Got to see that one to believe it.

[Robbie883]

ahahahahahahahahahahahah thats halairous man, thats pretty dull if you ask me!

[PeteHale]

By all means Cambria. Just on Clutch Cargo alone!

[metaldams]

This thread has been brought back up, causing me to read an almost twenty year old comment about me in the campus dining hall.  Holy shiitake mushrooms, the Internet is a strange thing.  I’m reading this now as a guy slightly closer to fifty than forty.

Interestingly, my comment from twenty years ago about cartoons is still accurate.  No change. 

[Umbrella Sam]

By all means Cambria. Just on Clutch Cargo alone!

Ironically enough, longtime Stooges costar Emil Sitka claimed to have done voices for Clutch Cargo. There’s been some debate on this, but I do recall a few cartoons that had voices that I thought sounded like Sitka. Plus, I find it difficult to believe someone would lie about being associated with Clutch Cargo. If anything I feel the opposite would be true; I wouldn’t think anyone would want to associate themselves with Clutch Cargo.

[GreenCanaries]

Ironically enough, longtime Stooges costar Emil Sitka claimed to have done voices for Clutch Cargo. There’s been some debate on this, but I do recall a few cartoons that had voices that I thought sounded like Sitka. Plus, I find it difficult to believe someone would lie about being associated with Clutch Cargo. If anything I feel the opposite would be true; I wouldn’t think anyone would want to associate themselves with Clutch Cargo.

Cambria also did THE NEW 3 STOOGES; Margaret Kerry and Hal Smith did voices for both that and for CLUTCH CARGO. I dunno if Emil ever did voices for THE NEW 3 STOOGES cartoons (at least, any voices that are documented; the database just lists him for live-action roles), but there is a connection there, production company-wise, that I suppose Emil could've...

 

...came in CLUTCH.

[Umbrella Sam]

Cambria also did THE NEW 3 STOOGES; Margaret Kerry and Hal Smith did voices for both that and for CLUTCH CARGO. I dunno if Emil ever did voices for THE NEW 3 STOOGES cartoons (at least, any voices that are documented; the database just lists him for live-action roles), but there is a connection there, production company-wise, that I suppose Emil could've...

I remember there was a guy here several years ago who thought that Emil did voices for the Stooges cartoons, and like you mention, Sitka has that Cambria connection, so it’s definitely logical. However, I have yet to find any cartoons where I hear Sitka’s voice and, in the case of THE NEW 3 STOOGES, if they had a voice that they couldn’t have Hal or Margaret do, it’s likely they would have asked one of the Stooges to take a crack at it before Emil, as proven by Moe voicing Orville Wright (and probably Curly Joe as Wilbur) in FLYCYCLE BUILT FOR TWO.

Here’s one of the CLUTCH CARGO cartoons I have Emil down as voicing. To me, the character “Shark” in this cartoon sounds exactly like Emil.

[Umbrella Sam]

Also...

 

...came in CLUTCH.

[GreenCanaries]

Hmm... interesting: according to this Cartoon Research article, Margaret Kerry stated that Emil never partook in a CLUTCH CARGO recording session, and that he started working for Cambria after the series completed production. As for the episode you posted, U.S., I can hear some similarity vocal-wise with the "Shark" character, but I don't quite think it's Emil. I can't quite pinpoint the exact difference (perhaps a bit higher pitched), but I think it's someone else.

EmilSitka.com mentions Emil worked on at least two episodes of CAPTAIN FATHOM (here and here), another Cambria Syncro-Vox show. Perhaps Emil misremembered that gig as being CLUTCH CARGO?

[Umbrella Sam]

Hmm... interesting: according to this Cartoon Research article, Margaret Kerry stated that Emil never partook in a CLUTCH CARGO recording session, and that he started working for Cambria after the series completed production. As for the episode you posted, U.S., I can hear some similarity vocal-wise with the "Shark" character, but I don't quite think it's Emil. I can't quite pinpoint the exact difference (perhaps a bit higher pitched), but I think it's someone else.

EmilSitka.com mentions Emil worked on at least two episodes of CAPTAIN FATHOM (here and here), another Cambria Syncro-Vox show. Perhaps Emil misremembered that gig as being CLUTCH CARGO?

Yeah, I’ve seen that article and that’s why I was always hesitant to post about this, as Kerry would know given her husband owned Cambria. That being said, I also went back to the source of Sitka’s interview (the book, “The Golden Age of Chicago Children’s Television”) and it turns out I misremembered what Sitka said; Sitka just claimed to have worked for Cambria’s Synchro-Vox shows, he didn’t mention CLUTCH CARGO specifically. So for that, I apologize; there’s no official source confirming Sitka worked on CARGO.

That being said, there are multiple cartoons with that Sitka sounding voice, and it is possible too that Sitka came in during post-production, which would explain why Kerry wouldn’t have remembered working with him. However, I don’t want to spread any misinformation, so I think you’re correct, it’s not Emil on CLUTCH CARGO.

[Umbrella Sam]

Just watched some of the CAPTAIN FATHOM episode “The Sub Enchanted Garden”, and Sitka is definitely voicing one of the supporting characters there. And you’re right, the more I listen to “Shark” in CLUTCH CARGO, it does sound more like someone imitating Sitka instead of Sitka himself. Again, I apologize; should have double checked that interview before posting.

[GreenCanaries]

No biggie, Sam. Happens to all of us!

[Big Chief Apumtagribonitz]

I've just discovered this board, and I'm intrigued, as much by the longevity as anything else.  Does anyone else remember Scrappy?  I was extremely young when I watched that, so it had to be somewhere in the mid-fifties.  I wouldn't swear to it, but I have a hunch it was by the same studio that made Farmer Alfalfa.  Was that Terrytoons?  Anybody got anything here?

[Umbrella Sam]

I've just discovered this board, and I'm intrigued, as much by the longevity as anything else.  Does anyone else remember Scrappy?  I was extremely young when I watched that, so it had to be somewhere in the mid-fifties.  I wouldn't swear to it, but I have a hunch it was by the same studio that made Farmer Alfalfa.  Was that Terrytoons?  Anybody got anything here?

Scrappy was made by Columbia’s own cartoon studio, Screen Gems. In fact, one Scrappy cartoon, MAN OF TIN, even reuses some of Curly’s “woo-woos” from his Three Stooges shorts. Personally, I think the Screen Gems cartoons generally tend to be a step down from most of their competitors. The style just feels so inconsistent, most likely the result of their constant shifts in management (at one point Frank Tashlin was in charge of the studio, only to be replaced by Dave Fleischer of Popeye fame). But there was still some good talent involved and every now and then they hit on a good concept, particularly The Fox and the Crow.

[Big Chief Apumtagribonitz]

Wow, that's even more obscure than I was imagining.  Thanks, Sam.

[PeteHale]

Scrappy was made by Columbia’s own cartoon studio, Screen Gems. In fact, one Scrappy cartoon, MAN OF TIN, even reuses some of Curly’s “woo-woos” from his Three Stooges shorts. Personally, I think the Screen Gems cartoons generally tend to be a step down from most of their competitors. The style just feels so inconsistent, most likely the result of their constant shifts in management (at one point Frank Tashlin was in charge of the studio, only to be replaced by Dave Fleischer of Popeye fame). But there was still some good talent involved and every now and then they hit on a good concept, particularly The Fox and the Crow.

I was writing a book on the Golden Age of Animation last year (now defunct), and I watched EVERY Mintz Krazy Kat. Let's never try that again.

[QuinceHead]

That’s easy — Filmation!