Topic: Bond...James Bond?

[metaldams]

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In case anybody is interested, here is the song the Alice Cooper Group put together for THE MAN WITH GOLDEN GUN that got passed over for Lulu.  The video itself is just random clips from a fan that have nothing to do with the song.

[xraffle]

You guys are way too picky, all the older bonds were good.


@xraffle

What you got something against Christopher Walken and Duran Duran??

We are all picky in our own weird ways.

I can understand your reaction. Two Bond movies I find underrated are "Diamonds Are Forever" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." The ONLY thing I didn't like in "Diamonds Are Forever" is Connery's old look. He really aged and it's shocking because he's younger than Roger Moore. But overall, I thought the movie was quite interesting. "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" is another good one and I give Lazenby a lot of credit for it. He was a convincing Bond and the movie is pretty enjoyable. I think people just need to give George Lazenby a chance.

[BeAStooge]

In case anybody is interested, here is the song the Alice Cooper Group put together for THE MAN WITH GOLDEN GUN that got passed over for Lulu.

The opening credit performances have been a traditional highlight of the Bond films since FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. My top 4 themes...

LIVE AND LET DIE (1972)
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GOLDFINGER (1964)
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FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
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THE SPY WHO LOVE ME (1977)
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[BeAStooge]

Jim started this thread over a week ago. I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the connection between the Bond films and the Stooges' history. The connection may be indirect, but it is significant.

[Curly4444]

The opening credit performances have been a traditional highlight of the Bond films since FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. My top 4 themes...

If your into the themes, they have a CD that have them all on it.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Bond-James-Bond-CD/dp/B001FQHQRI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1282363505&sr=1-1


You forgot some other good ones like:

All Time High (Rita Coolidge)
A View To A Kill (Duran Duran)
Tomorrow Never Dies (Sheryl Crow)

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Nobody Does It Better (Carly Simon)

Ugh, I HATE that song, if only because my Dad claims it as his theme song.

[Curly4444]

Ugh, I HATE that song, if only because my Dad claims it as his theme song.

I sure hope he isn't talking about "in the bedroom"!! 

[Rich Finegan]

Jim started this thread over a week ago. I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the connection between the Bond films and the Stooges' history. The connection may be indirect, but it is significant.

I think I know the connection you mean. Does it have something to do with a certain movie producer who produced many of the James Bond movies, and Stooges founder Ted Healy?
I'm not sure how much of it was ever reliably confirmed, but perhaps you can tell the story in more detail than I would.
Here's some info on the producer:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0110482/bio

[BeAStooge]

Does it have something to do with a certain movie producer who produced many of the James Bond movies, and Stooges founder Ted Healy?

I'm not sure how much of it was ever reliably confirmed...

Many stories about Healy's death have been told, and they will probably remain questionable.

But it is fact that Albert "Cubby" Broccoli was one of the people that fought with Ted Healy at the Trocadero that night in December 1937.

[shemps#1]

I was going to go for the parallelism between both the Stooges AND Roger Moore getting long in the tooth and going on for far too long, thus making it cringe-inducing when young women would get the hots for them in their films.

I just finished watching 2002's Die Another Day. It has Madonna as a lesbian fencing instructor, an invisible car, and North Koreans turning themselves Caucasian...very bad indeed. Worse than Moonraker? No, and thus my quest continues.

[Justin T]

The opening credit performances have been a traditional highlight of the Bond films since FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE. My top 4 themes...

LIVE AND LET DIE (1972)
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GOLDFINGER (1964)
[youtube=425,350]WgN50uAp4pg[/youtube]

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
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THE SPY WHO LOVE ME (1977)
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Excellent choices, I agree with them all. I'm especially fond of Goldfinger and Live and Let Die. I also like Tomorrow Never Dies by Sheryl Crow.

I totally forgot about Cubby being one of the people Healy fought with the night he died. Thanks for the reminder.

[Rich Finegan]

It is fact that Albert "Cubby" Broccoli was one of the people that fought with Ted Healy at the Trocadero that night in December 1937.

Wouldn't it have been ironic if instead of Healy getting hurt in the fight, it was Mr. Broccoli. And if he got hurt bad enough he might have become a "vegetable".
(Or should I have saved that one for the "Bad Jokes" thread?)

[shemps#1]

I watched Octopussy which was the final official Bond film I hadn't seen. Then I went about ranking the Bond films and other than #1 and the last 2 or 3 I found it difficult to do. Anyway here is what I came up with.


1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Thunderball
4. Casino Royale
5. You Only Live Twice
6. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
8. GoldenEye
9. Dr. No
10. The Living Daylights
11. Live and Let Die
12. Diamonds Are Forever
13. Licence To Kill
14. For Your Eyes Only
15. Octopussy
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Quantum of Solace
18. A View To A Kill
19. The Man With the Golden Gun
20. The World Is Not Enough
21. Die Another Day
22. Moonraker

[Dunrobin]

Wow - pretty damned close to how I would probably rank them.  I watched License to Kill again, and I have to admit it wasn't nearly as bad as I seemed to remember.

Now that you've watched all of those, you have to watch the 1960's Casino Royale with David Niven and Peter Sellers.   

[Justin T]

I watched Octopussy which was the final official Bond film I hadn't seen. Then I went about ranking the Bond films and other than #1 and the last 2 or 3 I found it difficult to do. Anyway here is what I came up with.


1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Thunderball
4. Casino Royale
5. You Only Live Twice
6. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
8. GoldenEye
9. Dr. No
10. The Living Daylights
11. Live and Let Die
12. Diamonds Are Forever
13. Licence To Kill
14. For Your Eyes Only
15. Octopussy
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Quantum of Solace
18. A View To A Kill
19. The Man With the Golden Gun
20. The World Is Not Enough
21. Die Another Day
22. Moonraker

Nice ranking Shemps, This is pretty close to how I'd rank em myself. I would have For Your Eyes Only and Tomorrow Never Dies
a little higher, with For Your Eyes being in my Top 10 . Your Top 10 is very nice though. I'll throw out my own rankings later.

[shemps#1]

It was hard for me to sit and rank them because I thought so many of them were so good. I knew Goldfinger is my absolute favorite and Die Another Day and Moonraker were on Ed Wood bad levels so they would be on the bottom of the list (I even had to think about which one would be last). As far as For Your Eyes Only goes, I really thought that was a middle of the pack effort; not because I didn't like it but because there are so many great films in the series. It was a definite change for Moore, and I loved the line where the very young figure skater is trying to sleep with him and he says "put on your clothes and I'll buy you an ice cream". I did think the very end where he coming on to Margaret Thatcher was a bit over-the-top though.

[Curly4444]

Heres my ranking of them:

1. Live and Let Die
2. For Your Eyes Only
3. Moonraker
4. Goldfinger
5. The Man With the Golden Gun
6. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. Octopussy
8. Thunderball
9. A View To A Kill
10. You Only Live Twice
11. Dr. No
12. The Living Daylights
13. Thunderball
14. From Russia With Love
15. Never Say Never Again
16. Diamonds Are Forever
17. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
18. Casino Royale
19. Licence To Kill
20. The World Is Not Enough
21. Tomorrow Never Dies
22. Quantum of Solace
23. Die Another Day

[Curly4444]

It was hard for me to sit and rank them because I thought so many of them were so good. I knew Goldfinger is my absolute favorite and Die Another Day and Moonraker were on Ed Wood bad levels so they would be on the bottom of the list (I even had to think about which one would be last). As far as For Your Eyes Only goes, I really thought that was a middle of the pack effort; not because I didn't like it but because there are so many great films in the series. It was a definite change for Moore, and I loved the line where the very young figure skater is trying to sleep with him and he says "put on your clothes and I'll buy you an ice cream". I did think the very end where he coming on to Margaret Thatcher was a bit over-the-top though.

What about Never Say Never Again??

[shemps#1]

I didn't include Never Say Never Again for two reasons: it isn't an official Bond film and I haven't seen it yet. Your list is obviously very Roger Moore biased (his films occupy 7 of the top ten spots). I'm not trying to flame you here, but how can a bonafied classic like From Russia With Love be so low and the extremely goofy but admittedly enjoyable in a perverse way Moonraker be so high? I know you said you loved the Moore films in previous posts, but I am trying to get into the minutiae on your thought process as to why the Moore films are the best. I'm actually very interested because we both are Bond fans but our list were extremely different for the most part.

[Curly4444]

I didn't include Never Say Never Again for two reasons: it isn't an official Bond film and I haven't seen it yet. Your list is obviously very Roger Moore biased (his films occupy 7 of the top ten spots). I'm not trying to flame you here, but how can a bonafied classic like From Russia With Love be so low and the extremely goofy but admittedly enjoyable in a perverse way Moonraker be so high? I know you said you loved the Moore films in previous posts, but I am trying to get into the minutiae on your thought process as to why the Moore films are the best. I'm actually very interested because we both are Bond fans but our list were extremely different for the most part.

Like i said in a previous post, I think it was shaped by my childhood. He was the first bond i knew, and i didn't get into other bonds until later. He became the what i though of as the bond character, and it stuck with me. My parents connected with Sean Connery of course as he was bond to them, and preferred him as the quintessential bond character. So i guess my Moore bias-ism can be blamed on nostalgia.

Since you got into bond late, you got to watch them all at once, and form a consensus based on your tastes.  So probably if i never watched any bond film and did what you did, my list would probably look more like yours.

PS: I know i should of ranked Mooraker a little lower, but Sci-Fi/Fantasy side of me, wouldn't let me. 

[Bud_Jamison]

Can't resist this ranking, here is mine...


1. From Russia With Love
2. Goldfinger
3. Thunderball
4. Dr. No
5. Casino Royale
6. Live and Let Die
7. You Only Live Twice
8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
9. The Man With the Golden Gun
10. Diamonds Are Forever
11. GoldenEye
12. Die Another Day
13. For Your Eyes Only
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
16. Octopussy
17. The World Is Not Enough
18. Moonraker
19. The Living Daylights
20. Licence To Kill
21. Quantum of Solace
22. A View To A Kill

Never Say Never Again is not a contender, rubbish.  It's almost as bad as somebody other than the BBC making Doctor Who!

[Liz]

I'm a big James Bond fan.  I recently watched Goldfinger and was absolutely blown away by everything:  Sean (my favorite Bond, by the way), the locales, the plot...everything was just perfect.  Immediately, I knew it was my favorite Bond film.

In my opinion, there's no worst Bond and film, it's just that some are weaker than others, Craig and Quantum of Solace, in my opinion, being the weakest.  Craig makes the Bond series look like the Bourne series!

My Bond ranking:
1. Connery
2. Lazenby
3. Moore
4. Brosnan
5. Dalton
6. Craig

My film ranking:
1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. The Man With the Golden Gun
5. Thunderball
6. Dr. No
7. Live and Let Die
8. The World Is Not Enough
9. You Only Live Twice
10. Octopussy
11. Casino Royale
12. GoldenEye
13. License To Kill
14. A View To a Kill
15. The Living Daylights
16. For Your Eyes Only
17. Die Another Day
18. The Spy Who Loved Me
19. Diamonds Are Forever
20. Moonraker
21. Tomorrow Never Dies
22. Quantum of Solace

[BeAStooge]

Sorry to bring up an old post, but I thought I'd share one of my favorite things about LIVE AND LET DIE (1973)...

[Bud_Jamison]

Fantastic!

[Boid Brain]

You really get around, BeAstooge! ....my thoughts on Bond: "Goldfinger" was a monster hit in '64, the year of the Beatles and Cassius Clay. It was and remains the fastest big budget movie to make it's money back. I think that was because people came back over and over to see it.

It IS the best Bond flick by a light year. No other actor can be Bond. Just Connery. Just like Weismueller and Tarzan.

Golfinger COULD have been a perfect movie IF: they had used sound recording. Instead, they went the cheap and easy way and dubbed the whole fucking sound track in the studio, like a cheap Kung Foo movie! Even as a kid I new the sound was whack; words not matching the lips, the "indoors" sound in outdoor scenes, like at the race track. Not a breath of wind or bird chirping.

Same thing with Dr. No and Russia. Does anyone know the 1st Bond movie with proper sound?

Even with that major flaw Goldfinger holds up as a great movie in a great moment in time in this country.