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Moe's Slaps
123cagney:
Your not missing anything. I've never seen THIS guys dupes, but I have seen my fair share of em. These aren't DIGITALLY mastered copies, trust me. These dvd dupes are generally a thousand times worse than the old school 2nd generation video copies. And thats probably what they're transfering from. I wish Columbia would follow the path the Abbott and Costello dvd's have taken, and release all the Besser and Shemp shorts in volumes.
3Stooges:
Sometimes these "Homemade DVD sellers" provide the only way to get things. I dont mind them. I've gotten a ton of stuff on Ebay that I wouldnt have been able to get otherwise.
I do have a problem with Columbia ignoring the Besser era for 25 year since home movies have been popular. Not 1 has been released.
If the choice is... #1 Getting them from a seller on Ebay, Or #2 Waiting forever until Columbia releases them which they may NEVER do!....
I'll take Ebay.
123cagney:
--- Quote from: Pilsner Panther on October 26, 2004, 09:26:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: 123cagney on October 26, 2004, 07:06:21 PM ---BUT... he may end up being the ONLY one releasing Besser on DVD. Law breaker- 1 columbia-0
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Looking at this guy's product list, he's been duplicating and selling a lot of old films, and how many could he have the rights to? He probably doesn't even have the rights to that Stooges caricature he's using on the Besser shorts box... I've seen it somewhere before.
So here we have a good old moral dilemma... I'd like to own those Columbia
Buster Keaton shorts myself (they're a lot funnier than Jim Kline and other Keaton commentators would have you believe), but I don't want to encourage piracy, either. So, I'll (reluctantly) pass them up.
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--- Quote --- Did you see what the winning bidder paid? (For the Besser/Stooge disc) $120 smackeroos! Plus he taged on a wopping $6 bucks for shipping! Boy, am I in the wrong business (custodial-the typical stooge job). I can just hear the Howard and Derita families now-"soooo,holdin out on me aehhhhh!"
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Well, I guess that if you're the kind of collector who wants everything the Stooges ever put on film, it was worth it. There used to be a lot of Besser-bashing on this board a few years back, and I wasn't part of it, but the Joe B. era was at the tail end of the Stooges' career at Columbia, and the shorts reflect that (the cruddy production values and scripts, especially).
Besides, Besser didn't want to do any hard slapstick, and that's what makes him the weakest Stooge. Not that they're all so bad— I like the "Outer Space" Besser shorts, but the talking horse ones are geshtunkener dreck, chozzerai!
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leandar:
But at the same time, the Besser shorts had the best opening, IMO. I loved that where they stand there and do the "Hello, hello, hello. Hello!" bit at the beginning. Gave the opening a bit more life, I think.
Besides, in some respects, I can't blame Joe for not wanting to do the hard slapstick, it's not everyone's cup of tea to get slapped around all over the place, money or not.
Also, I've always figured that he probably realized what happened to Curly and what probably would have happened to Shemp had the heart attack not intervened, and was afraid maybe that if he allowed himself to get slapped around all over the place, that he would end up the exact same way. And seeing as how Larry also ended up dying from several strokes, maybe Joe Besser was the smart one.
123cagney:
--- Quote from: leandar on November 01, 2004, 01:02:07 AM ---But at the same time, the Besser shorts had the best opening, IMO. I loved that where they stand there and do the "Hello, hello, hello. Hello!" bit at the beginning. Gave the opening a bit more life, I think.
Besides, in some respects, I can't blame Joe for not wanting to do the hard slapstick, it's not everyone's cup of tea to get slapped around all over the place, money or not.
Also, I've always figured that he probably realized what happened to Curly and what probably would have happened to Shemp had the heart attack not intervened, and was afraid maybe that if he allowed himself to get slapped around all over the place, that he would end up the exact same way. And seeing as how Larry also ended up dying from several strokes, maybe Joe Besser was the smart one.
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I have the feeling LIFESTYLE killed curly,not slapping.
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