Pilsner Panther
Muttonhead
USA
421 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 04:33:32 AM
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Originally posted by metaldams
The Three Stooges, Chaplin, Keaton, The Marx Brothers, Laurel and
Hardy, all stayed on a bit too long. In all fairness to Laurel and
Hardy, I've never seen any of their films past 1936, so I'm only
going by reputation concerning their post Roach output. The Three
Stooges last truly great work was Three Dark Horses, and The Marx
Brothers, I'd say stopping at The Big Store is being too kind. A Day
At The Races to me was their last great film. The others after this
have their good moments, but the classic era had obviously gone by.
Even Groucho has stated he lost all enthusiasm after Irving Thalberg
died. W.C. Fields, on the other hand, made all his classic works
later on in life.
That's not completely true. Fields was pushing 50 at the beginning of
the sound era, but have you ever seen "Sally of the Sawdust?" A
typically sentimental and too-long (115 minutes) 1925 D.W. Griffith
silent, it still features a younger, more energetic Fields doing some
of his classic juggling routines, engaging in a vigorous fistfight,
and even a Sennett-style chase at the end. You only see flashes of
his juggling in his sound films, because by that time his drinking
had started to mess up his coordination. One major problem
with "Sally of the Sawdust" is that the actress who plays Sally,
Carol Dempster, is supposed to be a girl of 18 or so, but she appears
to be at least 35. Even so, it's worth watching, at least once; it's
almost like two different films, a Griffith "weeper," and something
else altogether when Fields is on the screen.
Two good later Laurel & Hardy films are "The Flying Deuces" and "A
Chump At Oxford." The first one has some surprisingly dark humor in
it— like when Ollie, rejected by a girl, decides to commit suicide.
Ever the "Pal," he tries to talk Stan into joining him: "What will
you do without me? People will point at you in the street and laugh,
and there'll be no one to explain to them what you are!"
In "Chump," (which I think would have been a good film for them to
bow out with as a team) Stan does an amazing transformation into a
character that's nothing like his usual screen persona, proving once
again that some of the old-time comics had a lot more acting range
than they're usually given credit for.
I'll stay away from much more personal commentary on all these rock
bands, since I don't pretend to be any kind of expert in that area.
Obviously, some people on this board went to a lot more rock concerts
than I did in the 70's and 80's. The first one I ever saw was Frank
Zappa in 1978, and he's definitely not making any comebacks. Too bad,
since I think he would have aged well and kept his satirical edge,
right into the present... I can only imagine what he would have had
to say about George W. Bush, John Ashcroft, & Co.
KISS was smart, using that full-face makeup. For all we know, Gene
Simmons could look just as bad as Keith Richards by now, underneath
it!
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"Can I help it if I ain't Cousin Basil?"
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:26:02 AM
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Lookit sickdrjoe! Doesn't he know we're all laughing at him? Man,
he's absolutely pitiful in ths thread, trying to get the best of me.
Even his little circle of friends must be biting their tongues like
never before, because they still want his friendship!
I suggest that we get back on topic and a few people followed the
suggestion, including Dunrobin. But no, sickdrjoe stil wants to take
us OFF-topic. Why? To throw a lame comeback my way so he can avoid
telling me, "You were right, I was wrong." But it didn't work, did
it, sickdrjoe? No one acknwledged a thing you wrote because they
value the REAL topic, brilliantly initiated by Metaldams, rather than
some half-assed attempt savage some pride, taken by yours truly.
"Anyone notice that....as Slipp gets crazier, shriller and more
infantile..."
See, righ there, you have to make stuff up as you go along. I don't
feel in the least like I'm getting crazy and shrill. I've been
posting with a calm, cool and collected tone all through this thread
that you're trying to sabatoge. Infantile? Please. Again, your awful
comparison skills are manifested.
10 year-old Ritalin addict? You just described yourself, with your
lame attepts to get under my skin. What kind of word is "notathirty"?
I know- a word a 10 year-old Ritalin addict would use!
"Then....just when he's filled his Huggies to the bursting point and
the stench is starting to make your eyes water"
Hmmm. Funny scenario, I'll admit. But I swear, you have used this
line continuously for over 2 years. Even Three Stooges lines grate on
you after hearing them so many ties. That's why hardly anyone was
watching the boys on AMC toward the end of N.Y.U.K.'s run. They tried
bringing back the Playhouse format, but it didn't work. Now the boysa
aren't on AMC at all. It's been many months since then... and you
STILL haven't learned anything from it.
Announce my retirement? Private e-mails? You think you got me pegged,
but you won't admit that you're just guessing here. You want everyone
to be convinced that your intelligent and laid back as you post this
nonsense, but I see right through your act. At times, your act has
has been good, and people actually believed that you had it all
together, but anyone can see that your grasping for straws here. At
other times, I may have been the only one to see it, but I know that
not even the ties of friendship can't keep your buddies from seeing
the truth.
We all see your lip quivering, the single tear running down your
cheek as you desperately try not to sound as crazy and shrill as you
falsely say that I do. You see yourself on the brink of losing your
integrity- your dignity on this board. So you pull out the tired old
lines that even your best pals roll their eyes at. Why don't you tell
them how I'm banging my spoon on the highchair again? Hey, I know...
tell them the one about Macy's window! I'm sure you'll have us all in
stitches over that overused, beaten-to-death line.
The last board for me? Oh, how you babble on! Know whereof you speak,
and assume too much, or your assumptions will turn into beliefs
before you can fully come to your senses.
Finally, "Calm down." Like I said, I've never been more calm in my
life. You, on the other hand, ought to keep your childishness in
check. I'd rather be half-cocked than act like a grown-up baby. Next
time you feel like spouting off, ease your aggresions by sucking your
Telletubbies pacifier.
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:35:42 AM
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Pilsner- good observations with "Flying Deuces" and "Chump" which
truly are 2 great films. "Dueces" is the one with horse ending (which
I won't completely spoil here), right? I get their 2 foreign legion
films ("Dueces" and the Jeanie Weanie one- I forget it's title) mixed
up sometimes. Both are great.
With "Chump", I especially appreciate it not only because of Stan's
great acting in 2 personas, but also for the early appearance of one
my favorite actors of all time- Peter Cushing. The man was a godsend
to the Hammer horror films and was also great in "Star Wars".
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
Bruckman
Applehead
USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 06:39:16 AM
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What I like is that Slipp can say straightforwardly "I'm more an
advocate of peace" then make the above protracted post, just like the
old days at C3, Stoogeworld, and 24*7.
"I come in peace."
"Yeah, and you go in pieces, @$$#&%#"
(Two years I've been on Stooge forums and never yet used a Dolph
Lundgren quote. Two years!!!)
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 07:04:06 AM
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I didn't lie. I am an advocate of peace. I try to keep peace between
others.
And on non Stooge-related boards, I avoid striking back altogether.
But no one ever KEEPS ragging on me like sickdrjoe does. Most of the
time, they throw ONE insult at me and I manage to successfully
promote peace between us instead of getting back at him.
For instance, someone bit my head off for posting something totally
off-topic. My response was that there should be no problem with it
because I posted it in the forum that is speciallly designed for off-
topic discussion. He realized the error of his ways and backed off. I
could've laid nto him and told him he had no right to bash me and
insult me, but when you bring up what others do and don't have the
right to do, they get defensive. Who am I to dictate what someone
does and doesn't have the right to do? Anyway, the problem was solved
and everyone was hppy and I went on to bring peace in other
potentially bad situations. I still poston those boards to this day
and no one has a problem with me. In fact, one of the members started
his own board recently and invited me and the other good posters to
join. So I accepted.
I wish I could apply to this situation what I apply to situations at
those other boards, but sickdrjoe is like no one I've ever come up
against. He has to have his own way, and if not, he assumes that he
looks bad. There's nothing wrong with not getting your own way in
public and the sooner he accepts that, the sooner I CAN achieve peace
with him.
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
Bruckman
Applehead
USA
109 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 07:46:18 AM
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What do you know, Slipp's got a musical head! *bing!* [marks X on
Slipp's forehead] How old are you anyway? No, no a little older than
that, no, you couldn't have gotten that deluded in 30 years......Wait
a minute, Slipp's handed me a letter. "Dear Mr. Bruckman, We wish to
introduce you to a young man who is very cooperative, peace-loving,
well-liked on forums, has musical talent, sings, plays the organ,
active in church.......who wrote this? it's very interesting....I
remain truly yours.....signed, ISLIPP" Ha ha ha, well that was a good
one on me, who else would like to try Slipp's musical head?
metaldams
Muttonhead
USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 08:21:32 AM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP
Lookit sickdrjoe! Doesn't he know we're all laughing at him? Man,
he's absolutely pitiful in ths thread, trying to get the best of me.
Even his little circle of friends must be biting their tongues like
never before, because they still want his friendship!
I suggest that we get back on topic and a few people followed the
suggestion, including Dunrobin. But no, sickdrjoe stil wants to take
us OFF-topic. Why? To throw a lame comeback my way so he can avoid
telling me, "You were right, I was wrong." But it didn't work, did
it, sickdrjoe? No one acknwledged a thing you wrote because they
value the REAL topic, brilliantly initiated by Metaldams, rather than
some half-assed attempt savage some pride, taken by yours truly.
"Anyone notice that....as Slipp gets crazier, shriller and more
infantile..."
See, righ there, you have to make stuff up as you go along. I don't
feel in the least like I'm getting crazy and shrill. I've been
posting with a calm, cool and collected tone all through this thread
that you're trying to sabatoge. Infantile? Please. Again, your awful
comparison skills are manifested.
10 year-old Ritalin addict? You just described yourself, with your
lame attepts to get under my skin. What kind of word is "notathirty"?
I know- a word a 10 year-old Ritalin addict would use!
"Then....just when he's filled his Huggies to the bursting point and
the stench is starting to make your eyes water"
Hmmm. Funny scenario, I'll admit. But I swear, you have used this
line continuously for over 2 years. Even Three Stooges lines grate on
you after hearing them so many ties. That's why hardly anyone was
watching the boys on AMC toward the end of N.Y.U.K.'s run. They tried
bringing back the Playhouse format, but it didn't work. Now the boysa
aren't on AMC at all. It's been many months since then... and you
STILL haven't learned anything from it.
Announce my retirement? Private e-mails? You think you got me pegged,
but you won't admit that you're just guessing here. You want everyone
to be convinced that your intelligent and laid back as you post this
nonsense, but I see right through your act. At times, your act has
has been good, and people actually believed that you had it all
together, but anyone can see that your grasping for straws here. At
other times, I may have been the only one to see it, but I know that
not even the ties of friendship can't keep your buddies from seeing
the truth.
We all see your lip quivering, the single tear running down your
cheek as you desperately try not to sound as crazy and shrill as you
falsely say that I do. You see yourself on the brink of losing your
integrity- your dignity on this board. So you pull out the tired old
lines that even your best pals roll their eyes at. Why don't you tell
them how I'm banging my spoon on the highchair again? Hey, I know...
tell them the one about Macy's window! I'm sure you'll have us all in
stitches over that overused, beaten-to-death line.
The last board for me? Oh, how you babble on! Know whereof you speak,
and assume too much, or your assumptions will turn into beliefs
before you can fully come to your senses.
Finally, "Calm down." Like I said, I've never been more calm in my
life. You, on the other hand, ought to keep your childishness in
check. I'd rather be half-cocked than act like a grown-up baby. Next
time you feel like spouting off, ease your aggresions by sucking your
Telletubbies pacifier.
What the HELL are you talking about?
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"Metaldams is crazy!" Noooooooo, I'm not crazy.....I'm just drunk on
new wine!
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 10:19:13 AM
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What the real question should be is "What's Bruckman talking about?"
Metal, I believe I made myself perfectly clear in that post you
quoted. Let me guess.. you want to call that post "mindless babbling"
just so you can imply that what I say has no merit so YOU don't look
bad because you're friends with DrJoe. Right? If that's the case,
don't worry, pal. No one is going to turn against you for admitting
that DrJoe's comments against me have no merit. If they do, they are
in the wrong, and they are not really your friends. They are still
trying to maintain their good images by backing him. i don't when
they (or you) will wake up and smell the coffee. but the sooner, the
better, for you and them. I'm not asking for people to join my side
or anything, but rather to just stop backing a jackass. You don't
know how bad that really does make you look.
I'm laughing at you myself. I can only imagine how the others are
reacting, but at least they have the decency to react OFFscreen. I
don't need any supporters and neither does he. This doesn't really
concern you, or Bruckman, or anyone else for that matter, does it?
Only in the way I mentioned above. You lay down with dogs, you rise
up with fleas (I think Benamin Franklin said that). You can still be
his friend- but why not let him stew in his own juices when he's
wrong. How else is he going to learn? And why do you have to be there
to "soften the blow"? A child isn't going to learn not to sass his
parents with a simple slap on the wrists. Likewise, your pal won't
learn to stop turning message board discussions into crap just
becuase I post in them.
Now PLEASE, let's get back on topic, shall we?
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
sickdrjoe
Muttonhead
296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 10:47:31 AM
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As usual, Boy Heidi, YOU have kidnapped the entire thread with one
spectacularly pathological rant after another....while accusing
others of doing so.
You need counselling, and powerful medication. Nobody acts this crazy
without being crazy.
Stooge Arch
Grapehead
64 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 11:30:28 AM
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Back to the subject.
What about Newsradio after Phil Hartman died they brought in Jon
Lovitz to help out Jon Lovitz is a good actor but he could never
replace Hartman. This may not be about this topic What about Good
Times when they killed the father James that was stupid and the show
was never good without him.
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"We come to say Hello"
metaldams
Muttonhead
USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 11:49:27 AM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP
What the real question should be is "What's Bruckman talking about?"
Metal, I believe I made myself perfectly clear in that post you
quoted. Let me guess.. you want to call that post "mindless babbling"
just so you can imply that what I say has no merit so YOU don't look
bad because you're friends with DrJoe. Right? If that's the case,
don't worry, pal. No one is going to turn against you for admitting
that DrJoe's comments against me have no merit. If they do, they are
in the wrong, and they are not really your friends. They are still
trying to maintain their good images by backing him. i don't when
they (or you) will wake up and smell the coffee. but the sooner, the
better, for you and them. I'm not asking for people to join my side
or anything, but rather to just stop backing a jackass. You don't
know how bad that really does make you look.
I'm laughing at you myself. I can only imagine how the others are
reacting, but at least they have the decency to react OFFscreen. I
don't need any supporters and neither does he. This doesn't really
concern you, or Bruckman, or anyone else for that matter, does it?
Only in the way I mentioned above. You lay down with dogs, you rise
up with fleas (I think Benamin Franklin said that). You can still be
his friend- but why not let him stew in his own juices when he's
wrong. How else is he going to learn? And why do you have to be there
to "soften the blow"? A child isn't going to learn not to sass his
parents with a simple slap on the wrists. Likewise, your pal won't
learn to stop turning message board discussions into crap just
becuase I post in them.
Now PLEASE, let's get back on topic, shall we?
Sickdrjoe, he's right. You're the troublemaker here and SLIPP is
being unfairly portrayed. PLEASE forgive me for saying it! Don't hurt
me master! That look in your eyes......no master! Please sickdrjoe,
I'M LOYAL TO YOU! I SWEAR, I'M LOYAL TO YOU! I'LL NEVER BETRAY YOU
AGAIN! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME! I can't die with innocent blood on my
hands. NO, NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! (sickdrjoe chokes metal
out and pushes him down the stairs).
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"Metaldams is crazy!" Noooooooo, I'm not crazy.....I'm just drunk on
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metaldams
Muttonhead
USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 12:37:21 PM
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Pilsner, concerning Fields, I've yet to see his silent work, though
I've read a little about it. No matter how great some of it may be,
it is his talkies that he is most known and loved for today. He made
those later on in his life. The Paramount stuff his early to mid 50s,
and his Universal stuff his late 50s to early 60s. That was roughly a
60 year old man in The Bank Dick, and I hear nobody complaining about
his age in that. That's why I say he's the exception to the rule. He
truly was The Great Man, and I imagine he'd have no problems sharing
a bottle of new wine with me. Why mah boy, the wine will be so new
they won't even have a chance to put a cork on the bottle. As long as
as we don't have to drink water. I don't like water. Fish like to
fffffff......um, nevermind.
Bruckman, agreed with you on Whitesnake and David Coverdale. It looks
ridiculous. They're just another old band trying to cash in on past
glories, and they look crazy doing it. Coverdale has actually been
around longer than the mid 80s. he was in Deep Purple from '74 - '76
and Whitesnake formed shortly thereafter. They didn't achieve fame
until much later on.
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"Metaldams is crazy!" Noooooooo, I'm not crazy.....I'm just drunk on
new wine!
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:36:01 PM
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DrJoe, as usual, Jackass, you totally ignore the fact that you
started the whole spat by popping of at me in the first place. (I
really am calm right now- while shaking my head at your insolence,
arrogance and what have you).
This thread is "kidnapped" as you put it because you just have to get
the last word. You also just have to continually make your posts look
like you're shrugging off anything I say. Keep it up. Me and everyone
who is staying out of this situation is either laughing at you or
pitying you. Nobody would say I'm crazy except you, Metal and very
few others. I and the rest of these posters think you need the help-
all the counseling a guy can handle.
Metal- I'm very sad for you. You obviously don't want to face the
fact that you're making yourself look pitiful- in public. That latest
post of yours about what I posted was extremely pitiful. I'm almost
want to cry for you. Please, come to your senses and truly admit I'm
right. Maybe you can still save yourself from being ostracized.
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
sickdrjoe
Muttonhead
296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:41:39 PM
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I suppose I've been asking for this treatment ever since my shameful
Christmas-greetings thread of two years ago. Once a guy wishes
someone a 'Merry Xmas', there's no telling how low he'll sink....eh,
Slipp?
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 2:55:35 PM
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What treatment? Oh you poor, poor, little baby. Did I hurt your
wittle feewings?
No one ever said your Christmas greeting was shameful but you, in
jest, just now, and you know it.
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"Noontime means luncheon for someone...." -Ted Healy in "Plane Nuts"
sickdrjoe
Muttonhead
296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 3:56:59 PM
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Hey!!
It's called a #@!&%* SPACE BAR!!!!
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Porcupines! Webmaster to the rescue!!
- Dunrobin
metaldams
Muttonhead
USA
347 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 4:39:40 PM
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Originally posted by ISLIPP
DrJoe, as usual, Jackass, you totally ignore the fact that you
started the whole spat by popping of at me in the first place. (I
really am calm right now- while shaking my head at your insolence,
arrogance and what have you).
This thread is "kidnapped" as you put it because you just have to get
the last word. You also just have to continually make your posts look
like you're shrugging off anything I say. Keep it up. Me and everyone
who is staying out of this situation is either laughing at you or
pitying you. Nobody would say I'm crazy except you, Metal and very
few others. I and the rest of these posters think you need the help-
all the counseling a guy can handle.
Metal- I'm very sad for you. You obviously don't want to face the
fact that you're making yourself look pitiful- in public. That latest
post of yours about what I posted was extremely pitiful. I'm almost
want to cry for you. Please, come to your senses and truly admit I'm
right. Maybe you can still save yourself from being ostracized.
SLIPP, I don't give a rat's ass what anybody else thinks. You know,
I'm sure there is the occasional person who comes to this board, who
sees me posting about new wine and acting like Renfield and probably
does think I'm one card short of a full deck. Not everybody, because
a lot of the regulars here "get" me and like me for who I am, (and
it's aprreciated), but I'm well aware of the fact there are probably
some stick in the muds out there who come to Three Stooges and other
comedy message boards that totally lack any kind of sense of humor
and couldn't possibly understand why someone wouldn't feel the need
to act serious in EVERY post, on a COMEDY board. I take this
seriously, but at the same time, not too seriously. Want to know
something else, SLIPP? I LIKE ME. That's very important. You, on the
other hand, spend your entire life worrying about what other people
think. "Oh no, I couldn't possibly put Curly's hat in a display case
in my house, people will think I'm weird," or, "Oh my God, these
people really don't like me on this message board, what do do? Oh, I
know! I will pose as my mother and make her say really great things
about me, and then everybody will like me for sure!!!" Your whole
life is centered around seeking acceptance from others, and if
anybody is sad around here, it's you, and that is the reason why.
I've never seen anybody in my life who is so needy for acceptance.
One thing I've learned in life is that the less you seek acceptance,
the easier it will come. You won't get it from everybody but you'll
get it from the people who truly like the real you, and that's what
really matters. So SLIPP, if anybody is posting here and thinks I
need psychiatric help, let them think it. To me, their opinions don't
matter.
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"Metaldams is crazy!" Noooooooo, I'm not crazy.....I'm just drunk on
new wine!
Dunrobin
Webmaster
USA
455 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 5:51:22 PM
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ISLIPP -
Earlier you were egging me on to ban SickDrJoe, but frankly you are
the one who is begging to get banned. SDJ is right when he says
you've managed to kidnap this thread, and while I try to be an
extremely tolerant guy you're really starting to push me to my
limits. Try reading Metaldams last post very carefully, as he offers
some very sage observations and advice.
Now quit getting your panties knotted up into a bunch and grow up,
before I gouge yer eyes out! 'Nuff said?
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- Dunrobin (the Webmaster)
"Quiet Knumbskulls - I'm broadcasting!"
ISLIPP
Chowderhead
USA
780 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:09:13 PM
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Dunrobin- whatever you censored there in sickdrjoe's post, thanks.
As for you Metal, I'm glad you like yourself. I really like myself
too, and like you and yourself, I also couldn't give a rat's a$$ what
other people think ok me. That's not the issue here.
What is the issue, is that you want to back DrJoe in wanting to
destroy my public image, which is the the other issue. The latter I
won't stand for. The former, I'll hope in your best interest that you
do something about.
I can take a ribbing as well as the next guy (it's been proven at
those other boards I've mentioned), but like I say, DrJoe is a whole
different animal (one that should be on a muzzle).
I've cracked jokes on THIS very board, which proves that I'm all for
me and others being funny on message boards. I don't take everything
seriously. (See the beer thread- "To the left-hand side?") DrJoe's
ribbings, I do take seriously, because his aren't the genteel kind
you just laugh off.
Acceptance? I already feel accepted here by most people, simply
because they haven't even suggested banning or ostricizing me.
Nothing I said to you in this thread was about acceptance at this
board. If you want to act like a total idiot (not that you have) and
stay here forever, go ahead. My point was that for your own benefit,
if someone tells you he/she thinks you're crazy, why not see for
yourself? Watch how strangers react to you in public. Watch how your
co-workers react to you. If you get a lot of weird reactions, it's
good sign that you need help. That many people can't be wrong.
I would have that hat in my bedroom in a display case anytime, but
not my living room. Too much action happens in the living room (and
when I get married, there will be too much action in the bedroom
too , so THEN what'll I do with it?
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sickdrjoe
Muttonhead
296 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2003 : 6:16:55 PM
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Can't you make your "point" in 25 words or under? EVER? You're not
just maudlin; you're incredibly tiresome and long-winded!
